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05-19-2009 , 05:05 PM
I find it hard to have faith that an author was inspired by God when we don't even know who wrote the book. (quote)
I did read this in the thread: Can we trust the NT?
Imagine tomorrow 10 guys will declare that they are Jesus and one of them would be the real Jesus. The other 9 would know very well about the NT, kind of Plethos (regarding their knowledge of Bible). How could we recognize which one is the real Jesus?
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05-19-2009 , 05:41 PM
Slap them all and find the the fastest at turning the other cheek.
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05-19-2009 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by spord
Slap them all and find the the fastest at turning the other cheek.
/thread
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05-19-2009 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by shahrad
I find it hard to have faith that an author was inspired by God when we don't even know who wrote the book. (quote)
I did read this in the thread: Can we trust the NT?
Imagine tomorrow 10 guys will declare that they are Jesus and one of them would be the real Jesus. The other 9 would know very well about the NT, kind of Plethos (regarding their knowledge of Bible). How could we recognize which one is the real Jesus?
Read Mark ( the "earliest canonical gospel") Chapter 13. "Watch!" (NIV)
or "Stay alert!" (JNT).
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05-19-2009 , 10:17 PM
you would know. deep down inside, you would know. just follow your heart
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05-19-2009 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bulletproof Monk
you would know. deep down inside, you would know. just follow your heart
We agree.

Signed,
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etc.
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05-20-2009 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by shahrad
How could we recognize which one is the real Jesus?
John 10:
37"If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me;
38but if I do them, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father."
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05-20-2009 , 03:47 AM
If someone claims to be Jesus or some type of prophet, but this person tries to discourage people from asking questions or thinking too much, that's a pretty good sign this person is a fake.

I think the verses below describe false prophets very well.

From Matthew 7:

15"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

16"You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?

17"So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.

18"A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.

19"Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

20"So then, you will know them by their fruits.
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05-20-2009 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bigpooch
Read Mark ( the "earliest canonical gospel") Chapter 13. "Watch!" (NIV)
or "Stay alert!" (JNT).
Would please tell us what is your assumption (regarding what this thread is about) based on Mark chapter 13?

Last edited by shahrad; 05-20-2009 at 04:42 AM.
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05-20-2009 , 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by NotReady
John 10:
37"If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me;
38but if I do them, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father."
This is a heavy weighter. Would you agree that the post #8 from Steve00007 (Mathew 7) is explaining your quote from Bible?
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05-20-2009 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by shahrad
Would please tell us what is your assumption (regarding what this thread is about) based on Mark chapter 13?
Did you read the OP in the other thread?

"chesterboy" in the other thread put more weight on the "canonical gospels"
compared to those "books" of the "New Testament" for which there is not
as much certainty concerning authorship (e.g., the "book" of "Hebrews").
"Mark" is considered the "earliest of the canonical gospels" and the text of
this "gospel" is attributed to Mark (e.g., see the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark#Authorship ).

It's pretty clear that the answer in the canonical gospels to your question
about recognizing who Yeshua is can be found in Mark Chapter 13.
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05-20-2009 , 08:07 AM
ask pletho, seeing as he most likely sees himself as a covert prophet.
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05-20-2009 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by shahrad
I find it hard to have faith that an author was inspired by God when we don't even know who wrote the book. (quote)
I did read this in the thread: Can we trust the NT?
Imagine tomorrow 10 guys will declare that they are Jesus and one of them would be the real Jesus. The other 9 would know very well about the NT, kind of Plethos (regarding their knowledge of Bible). How could we recognize which one is the real Jesus?
i suggest asking each one if they are jesus or not. and if they say they are...well, jesus would never lie!
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05-20-2009 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bigpooch
Did you read the OP in the other thread?

"chesterboy" in the other thread put more weight on the "canonical gospels"
compared to those "books" of the "New Testament" for which there is not
as much certainty concerning authorship (e.g., the "book" of "Hebrews").
"Mark" is considered the "earliest of the canonical gospels" and the text of
this "gospel" is attributed to Mark (e.g., see the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark#Authorship ).

It's pretty clear that the answer in the canonical gospels to your question
about recognizing who Yeshua is can be found in Mark Chapter 13.
This seems to me to be more related to his return at the end of time. What I mean is, when have been born at the time of Jesus and we wouldn't know about him and there were 10 people who would claim to be (some kind of) Jesus. How could we recognize who is saying the truth. So what I mean is how we could recognize Jesus out of the context of Wonders and especial historical or (un)natural occurrences.
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05-20-2009 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by shahrad
This seems to me to be more related to his return at the end of time. What I mean is, when have been born at the time of Jesus and we wouldn't know about him and there were 10 people who would claim to be (some kind of) Jesus. How could we recognize who is saying the truth. So what I mean is how we could recognize Jesus out of the context of Wonders and especial historical or (un)natural occurrences.
You didn't state that in the OP:

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I find it hard to have faith that an author was inspired by God when we don't even know who wrote the book. (quote)
I did read this in the thread: Can we trust the NT?
Imagine tomorrow 10 guys will declare that they are Jesus and one of them would be the real Jesus. The other 9 would know very well about the NT, kind of Plethos (regarding their knowledge of Bible). How could we recognize which one is the real Jesus?
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05-20-2009 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bigpooch
You didn't state that in the OP:
Now well, I assumed it is clear that I don't think that tomorrow will be the end of time. (The quote about: I don't know who wrote NT, is not related to apocalypse.) Nevertheless sorry, I try to be more accurate next time.
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05-20-2009 , 12:46 PM
why did i think shahrad was muslim?
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