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Originally Posted by Aaron W.
Wow, I was on merriam webster and oversaw it.
My fault, thank you for correcting me. See, that was not too hard, more than one ever could expect from a rambling theist
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Originally Posted by Aaron W.
At best, your quibble can be that "there is no proof" should be interpreted as a time-dependent claim (there is *currently* no proof) whereas the definition as stated by shuffle is a universal non-existence (it *cannot* be proven). But that would force you to read his definition inconsistently with your own language, because the game can be reversed. ("There is no proof" is the universal, and "cannot be proven" is time-dependent.)
Sure, there might be proof of so much in the future, does not change anything right now. Who knows, some day there might be proof that religious people just have good old
schizophrenia.
These useless ramblings don't change the fact that no proof has been brought forward in the last 3000 years after a good bunch of people allegedly directly interacted with god and the alleged birth of that guy called jebus.
Show proof or shut up
We're talking about an invented entity which allegedly has created the universe which means: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Ignoring the fact that we found a plausible explanation about the origin of the universe and it shows no involvement of any supernatural beings won't help anyone of you.
Some random guy on the interwebs claiming "There might be proof some day" just doesn't cut it. You need to realize that every religion is making
very specific positive claims about a supernatural world and supernatural beings.
Claiming "I believe these stories are correct because others also believe them" is a logical fallacy, but I guess you already knew that given your superior knowledge about, uhhh, absolutely everything
If you or anyone can show me some proof or if the old sadistic skydaddy decides to show his ugly face, I'll fall on my knees and acknowledge that all the religious loonies were right all along.
Until then, I won't and I'll keep assuming you all suffer from severe mental illness.
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Originally Posted by Aaron W.
So really, you might want to practice internetting. Or maybe practice Englishing. Because the given definition isn't so bizarre and isn't hard to find.
Yeah, you were right about the definition of faith but still no sign of skydaddy
You should stick to explaining basic math to clueless people in SMP, trying to defend religion with logic makes you look very very desperate and stubborn
(Well, just like a common religious guy
)
Greetings to Santa Claus, I am sure you meet him on a daily basis to discuss the existence of Bigfoot.
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
FlicksTracey,
I proposed a paradigm to you which acknowledged no definitive proof of Jesus's divine nature,
So?
jebus is only a small part of the fairytale. Nobody cares if he was the son of god. It's rather simple: No proof for god -> no need to talk about his son
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
and that one is subsequently free to believe or not to believe, according to his or her own determination. Instead of accepting the concept of faith as it is, which acknowledges your right not to believe as well, you made clear your intention to argue and otherwise belittle people who hold different beliefs from those of your own.
Beliefs of my own?
Where is this going? "Atheism is just another belief system"? LOL, how poor.
If every religious person would stick to believing in their own home, there would be no problem at all. But obviously, you came in here to defend the idea of invisible skydaddy.
Why did you not think: "Oh well, this Flickstracey guy is full of **** but I just keep believing"?
Instead of just ignoring my post you felt you needed to pick a fight for a supposedly omnipotent being?
Why are you so hilariously arrogant to think that
allmighty skydaddy needs
you to fight for him? He might be rather pissed right now because you are implying he can't handle matters on his own and needs a schizo to set things straight.
I believe that religious people have severe mental illnesses. Now please don't belittle my beliefs, allright?
Of course you are free to believe whatever you want, but you need to admit that even you will find some beliefs completely senseless.
For example, some people strongly believe that Xenu is/was real. Do you also believe this or does this crash with your skydaddy beliefs? How do you cope with the fact that every religion has a different "model" of how humans came to be
So why are you acting all butthurt when I challenge your belief of invisible skydaddies who mysteriously have been appearing and interacting with humans in worthless holy books but never in reality?
You sure apply lots of logical thoughts in your everyday life so it cannot be that outlandish to question any "Superior, unexplained being created most or all of the matter we see today"-Ideas?
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Might I suggest that such unprovoked hostility and intellectual dishonesty betrays bigotry and hypocrisy--behaviors which are indicative of someone who is deeply uncomfortable with their own sense of self. Maybe instead of hating other people and seeking fights with them, your ego would be better assuaged by addressing whatever problems you can find in your own life.
The irony.
Coming from a guy who has nothing more than very very stale "holier than thou" ramblings.
Also thanks for your amateurish psychological examination. Maybe you can include me in your evening prayers so I can see the light some day.
So, same goes to you: Show proof or stop your annoying "I and many others believe in an unproven entity, so my words have more weight than yours"-BS.
Last edited by FlicksTracey; 09-30-2016 at 05:59 AM.