There's Biblical support for almost anything .... if you try hard enough.

Yeah, it seems to be a good answer as to why this is believed.


Well that definition says that murder needs to be "unlawful", yet all the legal definitions seem to say that murder is the killing of another person.

Also, the definition of homicide says a person who kills another; murderer.

With these two things in mind, I don't find the "self murder" argument very compelling. "Self murder" seems to be an oxymoron according to It's constituent terms.

To be honest, I find that entry on Websters a little suspicious.

"Self murder" on that page has no definition of It's own, and defaults to suicide...which doesn't define itself as murder or have it as a synonym. Seems a tad circular.

Also, the murder page has this on it, for what reason I don't understand:

It seems like whoever made this entry may have had a religious agenda...

I'm not sure I understand you. I'm offering 'life begins at conception' as a Christian belief that's not supported Biblically. I can't tell if you are or aren't agreeing with that...

my pastor when I grew up said it was "sex without love" that was forbidden. Though I don't recall if he ever shared where in the Bible that was supposed to be from. As I understand it, in Biblical times most people didn't get married.

Oh? I don't understand your quote in that case. Could you explain it?

I could be wrong about its meaning, but it's the only coherent interpretation I can come up with. Like I said, I'm reading 'born' as 'miscarried'. So it looks to be saying 'if she miscarries and is not far enough along for the foetus to be recognisable as human, it's just a fine, but if she miscarries and something closely resembling a dead baby comes out, it's death.'

The key part is if it be perfectly formed, he shall give life for life. Implicitly 'not perfectly formed' != 'life'.

FYP Bro

Just thought that I would at least show you one simple proof of something which you think has no proof.

The other one, has even stronger proof, but I really do not feel at this time, that its worth it to lay it all out to you verse by verse, since you are really not interested in learning to believe, but merely posting to try and disprove something that you obviously have not researched much.

If you would just take the same humility and effort to learn what I have to say with receptiveness, as you do other things that you may excell at in life, you would come to find out that you really do not know what you think you know about the bible.

2Cr 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.