She has just been elected suffragan bishop in LA.

Looking for theists opinion on this.

Athiests - pls do not derail thread with homosexual bible versis et al.

if she isnt consicrated then theist will have a lot of explaining to do about their homophobia.

No. The people who don't "consecrate" her will have some explaining to do, not the entire Theist apparatus. What a ridiculous statement. For example, you're a complete moron, but I don't define every Atheist on here as a complete moron because many of them are incredibly intelligent. Make sense?

I'm an atheist but... I don't understand necessarily why this has to be an issue.

I'm pretty sure that ALL Bishops are sinners. So even if she's a sinner, can't she still be Bishop? Just my 2 cents...

Molesting 8 year olds is way better in god's eyes than having consensual sex with another adult. Get with the program.

My opinion as a christian.

IMO the basis and standard for belief is the Bible, specifically the New Testament. If a person makes a choice to be a christian, I believe they should conform their beliefs to the Bible and not try and conform the Bible to fit what they believe.

Does the Bible classify homosexuality as sin? I believe it does. Should churches be appointing practicing homosexuals to any positions? No, they should not.

This would also apply to many other sins as well: 1 Cor. 6:9-11

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Just my opinion. Flame away!


Peace!

It looks like her sins have been washed away according to that last line. Just like kurto said she should be good to go like the rest of the sinful ministers.

Unless your saying only those without sin can lead the church. Which sounds good to me because everyone is a sinner and they would have to shut em down.

why are you singling out one kind of sinner? Its irrelevent that homosexuality, in your opinion, is singled out as a sin. We are all sinners, according to every christian. If you said NO sinner should be appointed Bishop, you would be consistant. That fact that you're singling out ONE kind of sinner is bizzarre.

Go back and re-read my post. I included many other sins.

Then look at what Paul said:

And that is what some of you "were". But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Yes, we are all sinners. However, continuing in sin is the problem.

Peace!

It's actually astounding to me how committed they are to it: http://www.challengeonline.org/modul...hp?storyid=239

Perhaps he is a theist pretending to be an atheist to make atheists look bad. I have often felt that Pletho is the converse.

That doesn't make sense because all sin is equal and all people are continual sinners in the eyes of the biblical God.

I think the only way you can get out of what you're saying is that they are unrepentant sinners. With that though the question of should someone who has openly gay sex be allowed to be a minister or priest if they are truly repentant for having it? And who would judge that?

But then i wonder if you're consistent with your judgment of sin. Do you think ministers and priests who are overweight and guilty of the continual sin of gluttony should lose their jobs? And then there is just the basic sins like of not being fully loving which we are all continually guilty of. Which brings us back to closing down the churches because there are no non sinners.

It never ceases to amaze me that what conselting adults do with their genitalia is a "very serious question".

It is a ridiculous question, and it is only beaten in sheer stupidity by the array of ridiculous answers church leaders are willing to regurgitate in response.

"Is Mary going to do a good job?" is a serious question from an employer. "What does Mary do with her vagina in her sparetime?" is not.

But think of the children.....