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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52
The problem is the supposition that "nothing" even passes muster as any kind of meaningful notion, because science proves that it doesn't. The equation goes more like this: energy is here, energy is not created or destroyed i.e.is eternal, voila, the universe has always been here in some form. It didn't come from nothing. Beyond that, quantum field theory seems to indicate that something physical can come from nothing physical, which is an avenue for existent things to emerge from nonexistent/non-physical realms.
So "can something come from nothing?" is not a reasonable metaphysics question. It is a nonsense question. It is a whole lot like, "Can life come from non-life?" Answer: it doesn't really need to. Same thing as with something from nothing ... it doesn't need to. It kind of has a built in misunderstanding to it.
We don't need something to come from nothing in a non-theist model. It's just bullshyt. Theism it seems needs god to come from nothing, then just start poofing things into existence.
Hmm, well, your response proves to me that nothing can for sure come from something... LOL Just a little humor...
Just in case you do not understand.
We are talking about "all" of the physical realm that exist. And that it did not come from nothing. That it came from something. It just did not appear or make itself. It had a beginning, an origin, a birth, an entrance so to speak.
The visible actually came from that which cannot be seen, the invisible. The things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
You do believe in the word invisible right? That the truth of "invisible" the "unseen” or “not able to be seen" exist? In other words, that which your eyes cannot see or detect, that which your five senses cannot detect or see.
If not let me give you and very easy to understand example.
Your thoughts are invisible, they exist in your head but you cannot see them, they can however be "manifested into the physical world". You can "speak" your thoughts which then would be detectable by someone's ears. You can "write" your thoughts and they then would be readable by someone's eyes.
So at least you see the concept and the mechanics of how it works. How something invisible can be manifested to be visible, detectable, seen in the senses realm?
This is an easy concept to agree upon I would think?