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12-12-2011 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by darksideofthewal
So what do we think

-coke?
-alcohol?
-stress/trauma?
-troll?
-personality disorder?

am I missing any?
Maybe teenage angst?

That's my best bet. Although I somewhat agree with OP, I think his method of delivery will never be taken seriously.
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12-12-2011 , 09:14 PM
This guy definately is a kid. I fear he may or may not have history channel and drugs.
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12-12-2011 , 10:04 PM
please clue me in to why u think i'm a kid?
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12-12-2011 , 10:44 PM
Too much emotion in your posts.

Emotionally-fuelled thoughts are always predisposed to bias = can't be taken seriously.
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12-12-2011 , 10:55 PM
Regarding the crusades:
I liked the BBC documentary series featuring Terry Jones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Z3Y...eature=related
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12-13-2011 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RLK
That's a different take. I always thought of it as a response to Islamic expansion against the Byzantine empire and into the Iberian peninsula. It grabbed Church sanction after Christian pilgrims were denied access to the Holy Lands, but that was more of a justification than a cause. The effort was successful in the west so that Spain eventually became Christian, but the Byzantine empire was destroyed in the east.

I suppose this probably belongs in the History forum though.
And ironically it was partially caused by the Crusaders.
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12-13-2011 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by VeeDDzz`
Too much emotion in your posts.

Emotionally-fuelled thoughts are always predisposed to bias = can't be taken seriously.
This is my thinking voice.


Think about this..... How many avowed nonbelievers names made it through history?
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12-13-2011 , 03:00 AM
How many virgos made it?
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12-13-2011 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bunny
How many virgos made it?
Nas
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12-13-2011 , 03:05 PM
another example of terrorism thru religion.

this happened Monday in Saudi Arabia


A woman was beheaded in Saudi Arabia for practicing witchcraft and sorcery, the kingdom's Interior Ministry said, prompting Amnesty International to call for a halt in executions there.
Amina bint Abdel Halim Nassar was executed Monday for having "committed the practice of witchcraft and sorcery," according to an Interior Ministry statement. Nassar was investigated before her arrest and was "convicted of what she was accused of based on the law," the statement said. Her beheading took place in the Qariyat province of the region of Al-Jawf, the ministry said.
In a statement issued late Monday, the human rights group called the execution "deeply shocking" and said it "highlights the urgent need for a halt in executions in Saudi Arabia."
"While we don't know the details of the acts which the authorities accused Amina of committing, the charge of sorcery has often been used in Saudi Arabia to punish people, generally after unfair trials, for exercising their right to freedom of speech or religion," said Philip Luther, Amnesty International's interim director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme.
Saudi Arabia, an absolute monarchy, practices a puritanical version of Islam and is governed by Shariah, or Islamic law. In the deeply conservative kingdom, sorcery, witchcraft and blasphemy are all offenses that can be punishable by death.
The London-based Saudi newspaper Al-Hayat quoted a source in the country's religious police who said authorities searched Nassar's home and found books on sorcery, a number of talismans and glass bottles filled with liquids supposedly used for the purposes of magic. The source told the paper Nassar was selling spells and bottles of the liquid potions for about $400 dollars each.

Amnesty says Nassar's execution is "the second of its kind in recent months. In September, a Sudanese national was beheaded in the Saudi Arabian city of Medina after being convicted on 'sorcery' charges."
The human rights group said the number of executions in Saudi Arabia has almost tripled in 2011.
"So far at least 79 people -- including five women -- have been executed there, compared to at least 27 in 2010," the Amnesty statement said.
This is not the first sorcery case in Saudi Arabia to spark outrage from human rights groups. In 2008, Lebanese TV host Ali Hussain Sibat was arrested on charges of sorcery while in Saudi Arabia on a religious pilgrimage. In 2009, he was found guilty and sentenced to death. While Sibat has not been executed, he remains in prison.
Saudi Arabia's judicial system also made headlines this month for the sentence imposed on Australian national Mansor Almaribe, who was convicted of blasphemy while performing the Hajj in the kingdom, and sentenced to 500 lashes and a year in prison. The Australian government is pleading Almaribe's case.
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12-13-2011 , 03:56 PM
quote from OP:

"how many centuries have passed that these sick ****s have butt****ed your children on the false promise of the "cloth"

False analogy and some imprecise thinking in your quote above.

Did any posters in RGT have any children prior to the 20th century?

And pedophiles are pedophiles before they put on any "cloth".
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12-13-2011 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
quote from OP:

"how many centuries have passed that these sick ****s have butt****ed your children on the false promise of the "cloth"

False analogy and some imprecise thinking in your quote above.

Did any posters in RGT have any children prior to the 20th century?

And pedophiles are pedophiles before they put on any "cloth".
Just to note Splendour's usual silliness...

She asks if any posters had any children prior to the 20th Century. How that that be relevent to a woman who bases all of her beliefs on the centuries old writings of ancient man? She judges paintings of Jesus made hundreds of years after his death as being a meaningful way to judge if baby Jesus cried?!?!

Its not just that her thought process is irrational. At least she could try to be consistant and hold her self to the same standards that she asks of others.
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12-13-2011 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
quote from OP:

"how many centuries have passed that these sick ****s have butt****ed your children on the false promise of the "cloth"

False analogy and some imprecise thinking in your quote above.

Did any posters in RGT have any children prior to the 20th century?

And pedophiles are pedophiles before they put on any "cloth".
Splendour, are you really using terms like "false analogy" as if you actually aim to meet some simple standards when it comes to critical thinking? In the Biblical Authority thread you use the "two wrongs make a right" fallacy shamelessly. Do critical thinking standards only apply to people who don't hold your views?
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12-13-2011 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Acemanhattan
Splendour, are you really using terms like "false analogy" as if you actually aim to meet some simple standards when it comes to critical thinking? In the Biblical Authority thread you use the "two wrongs make a right" fallacy shamelessly. Do critical thinking standards only apply to people who don't hold your views?
How did I do that?

Do you mean by the Assyrian example?

I used it to fill in information. To think out of the box so to speak.

There are a lot of gaps of info in the OT and you have to research to find out missing pieces of information about it.

I find a lot of people take a one dimensional view of the OT. If you ask me the OT almost demands an "archaeology" search of information.

The more you dig the more you find out the truth.
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12-14-2011 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by kurto
Just to note Splendour's usual silliness...

She asks if any posters had any children prior to the 20th Century. How that that be relevent to a woman who bases all of her beliefs on the centuries old writings of ancient man? She judges paintings of Jesus made hundreds of years after his death as being a meaningful way to judge if baby Jesus cried?!?!

Its not just that her thought process is irrational. At least she could try to be consistant and hold her self to the same standards that she asks of others.
Oh I see OrP ignored my pm and didn't delete this insult.

I guess nobody sees that when they slander someone they are acting like the devil who tries to take away God's good name.

(kurto has been acting determinedly for years to take away my good name by all kinds of personal attacks.)

Richard Dawkins is a slanderer calling people "delusional" when he doesn't know.

He's never accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior and never been indwelt by the Holy Spirit but that doesn't stop him from acting like a phoney psychologist and branding people he doesn't know personally as "delusional" even though he can't relate to their experience.
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12-14-2011 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheelbluez
The catholic church most of all and every other religion involving god is right behind it.

how many centuries have passed that these sick ****s have butt****ed your children on the false promise of the "cloth"

How can you be sure of ur own skin if you believe any of this junk.

I will say one thing , I do appreciate the fact that without the start of 'religion' many , many centuries ago, we would not be the society we are today.

The "muslims" would have us all enslaved and terrorizing us until our lives were pure ****.

I say lets erradicate those idiots and move our world into realism belief system
Show me on this doll where the priest touched you.
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12-14-2011 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Oh I see OrP ignored my pm and didn't delete this insult.

I guess nobody sees that when they slander someone they are acting like the devil who tries to take away God's good name.

Richard Dawkins is a slanderer calling people "delusional" when he doesn't know.

He's never accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior and never been indwelt by the Holy Spirit but that doesn't stop him from acting like a phoney psychologist and branding people he doesn't know personally as "delusional" even though he can't relate to their experience.
I don't know one way or another which people of which religion who claim supernatural experiences are delusional and which aren't. However, given the massively conflicting religious experiences out there, without a doubt some are delusional. I'm curious as to how you think you could differentiate between a religious experience and a true delusion.
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12-14-2011 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CompleteDegen
I don't know one way or another which people of which religion who claim supernatural experiences are delusional and which aren't. However, given the massively conflicting religious experiences out there, without a doubt some are delusional. I'm curious as to how you think you could differentiate between a religious experience and a true delusion.
Some people have mental illnesses.

But people have never automatically classed people with faith as delusional. Afaik no one has ever done this except Richard Dawkins and the people who agree with his thinking and writings.

Dawkins lacks the experience and the knowledge to allege a delusion about anyone.

Try studying Brother Lawrence or the life of a great saint or religious figure. They are led by the Spirit into good attitudes and good works. Some people consciously work with their own Spirit more than others do.
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12-14-2011 , 10:46 AM
Me thinks op drank more than some alter wine in the vestry when he was an alterboy way back when.

Also if i refuse to believe in god i am an atheist. But what about the many thousands of other so called gods? Does this not make christians atheists for not believing in them?
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12-14-2011 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kurto
Just to note Splendour's usual silliness...

She asks if any posters had any children prior to the 20th Century. How that that be relevent to a woman who bases all of her beliefs on the centuries old writings of ancient man? She judges paintings of Jesus made hundreds of years after his death as being a meaningful way to judge if baby Jesus cried?!?!

Its not just that her thought process is irrational. At least she could try to be consistant and hold her self to the same standards that she asks of others.
If I were an atheist I'd be angry as hell with kurto for trying to prevent free thinking on here by slandering someone else.

I like to think for myself. I really don't want to read someone else's criticisms and distortions about another person all the time especially when they're irrationally motivated by the emotions.

I am one of the few people on here that will present a counter to atheism and kurto is trying to prejudice the counter at the outset by slander.
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12-14-2011 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
I guess nobody sees that when they slander someone they are acting like the devil who tries to take away God's good name.
hard for people to see this when its silly. Though its odd for you to post this since you have a history of slandering people.

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(kurto has been acting determinedly for years to take away my good name by all kinds of personal attacks.)
I don't take away your good name... I simply point out the things you say. If this gives you a bad name then its only your only posts to blame.

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Richard Dawkins is a slanderer calling people "delusional" when he doesn't know.

He's never accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior and never been indwelt by the Holy Spirit but that doesn't stop him from acting like a phoney psychologist and branding people he doesn't know personally as "delusional" even though he can't relate to their experience.
here you go again slandering Dawkins and making up judgements about him that you aren't qualified to make. Why do you always act like the devil?
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12-14-2011 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Some people have mental illnesses.

But people have never automatically classed people with faith as delusional. Afaik no one has ever done this except Richard Dawkins and the people who agree with his thinking and writings.

Dawkins lacks the experience and the knowledge to allege a delusion about anyone.
Christians regularly assert that people of other faiths are delusional.

You lack the experience and knowlege to allege anything about Dawkins. Stop acting like the devil..
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12-14-2011 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
If I were an atheist I'd be angry as hell with kurto for trying to prevent free thinking on here by slandering someone else.
Tee hee. I doubt any atheist has the delusion that I'm (1) preventing free thinking or that I'm (2) slandering someone. Once again you are misuing words. No matter how many times I point out why something you said is wrong, irrational or foolish... it will never be slander.

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I like to think for myself. I really don't want to read someone else's criticisms and distortions about another person all the time especially when they're irrationally motivated by the emotions.
You're a little Sarah Palin... you think people are wronging you simply by repeating back the things you say. You don't like to read criticisms because they constantly challenge all the wrong things you post.

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I am one of the few people on here that will present a counter to atheism and kurto is trying to prejudice the counter at the outset by slander.
Please stop making baby Jesus cry. There are plenty of people who present ideas counter to atheism and they are all treated differently then you. Because they post better and smarter then you. I never slander you. There is no need, your posts are so filled with hogwash that simply repeating what you say is all one has to do to illuminate the problems with your ideas.

There are a number of theists on here who post regularly who are not "slandered" as you inaccurately stated.
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12-14-2011 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Try studying Brother Lawrence or the life of a great saint or religious figure. They are led by the Spirit into good attitudes and good works.
People study you, Splendour.

You are an ambassador of a religion that says to be led by the Spirit and to have the mind of Christ in operation in you.

The posts you make are representative of your state of mind and state of being at the time you post.

You post, readers discern.
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12-14-2011 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kurto
Tee hee. I doubt any atheist has the delusion that I'm (1) preventing free thinking or that I'm (2) slandering someone. Once again you are misuing words. No matter how many times I point out why something you said is wrong, irrational or foolish... it will never be slander.



You're a little Sarah Palin... you think people are wronging you simply by repeating back the things you say. You don't like to read criticisms because they constantly challenge all the wrong things you post.



Please stop making baby Jesus cry. There are plenty of people who present ideas counter to atheism and they are all treated differently then you. Because they post better and smarter then you. I never slander you. There is no need, your posts are so filled with hogwash that simply repeating what you say is all one has to do to illuminate the problems with your ideas.

There are a number of theists on here who post regularly who are not "slandered" as you inaccurately stated.
You're intelligence is on the fritz.

I'm God's bulldog. I'm the champion of atheists but not of their thinking.

Who else but God's bulldog would navigate through your daily crudities to offer you God's grace.
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