The theory that a deity will one day burn the world with fire needs to be proven wrong?

I'm still trying to disprove the theory that Flying Spaghetti Monster will defeat the Lasanga Devil in 500 years

(hint: you need meet the burden of proof in order to challenge a theory or statement)

What this verse is implying and teaching is that people go by their senses, the people who knew Jesus Christ BEFORE he started his actual ministry at the age of 30, thought of him as a regular old guy, a carpenter.

When he started to minister to people at 30 those who knew him in his own town and from the past, couldn't get past the flesh, the past. Because they knew him beforehand their believing towards him and their respect for him as the son of God, as the messiah was zilch, not there, because they just thought, its that guy that is the carpenter, the son of Joeseph and Mary.

If I were to be called of God as a true prophet of God, how many of my friends would actually believe me? Not many most likely. How about my family? Not many. Its not set in stone but thats the norm.

No I'm saying that it needs to be proven that the original Greek doesn't translate to divine purification.

Big Erf ... i think you need to take a deep breath. I would suggest putting all your thoughts onto e-paper before spamming this thread (yeah I know its your thread, but it makes it impossible to figure out WTF you are trying to say), with a bunch of seemingly unrelated quotes.

I mean when you have 10 posts that are each separated by 5 minutes or less, then its clear you aren't even sure what you believe. Instead of posting, wait 10-15 minutes and actually say something meaningful instead of just posting the words of someone else.

If this is true (gl with your fellow theists).

And God takes heartfelt knowledge of Jesus and sin into account. Then sin wouldn't of originally counted out the ignorant non-believers or ancient Jews. And Jesus' death was unnecessary for them to get their sin forgiven.

This was all laid out on e-paper, that's how I figured out what info would go in what post. I like the idea of dividing it into multiple posts so as you don't read one long one, and it's easier to quote certain sections.

You are telling me that you really don't know where I'm trying to go with this?

Sounds like Jewish mysticism. I think some of them say the soul will be polished in the fires of gehenna for up to 9 months or something.

not really. I think the only one who can follow what you are trying to do is *you*.

you are talking about 5-10 different topics in this thread, and you aren't really even tying them together, or at least not doing it in a way that makes any sense (except to you)

Don't be so tough on BigErf, officer. While admittedly he's done a bit of rambling, there have been some worthwhile ideas posted also.

I think i know were he's going but i wont tell.

well my point is that I dont want his worthwhile ideas to get lost in the forest. It seems like it would be more useful to everyone just to focus on one thing at a time before this thread spawns into 20 different discussions.

Much of it is cut and pasted from religious websites. Most of these 'ideas' aren't his own.

Great investigation there Hopey.

The will of God IS NOT within, unless you hide it in your heart.

The WORD OF GOD, is THE WILL OF GOD.

No, the will of God is not written in the stars. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is though.

The word of God contains God's will for YOU and for ME both. Gods will and calling for you and Gods will and calling for me are the same.

You cannot know Gods will without knowing His word.

Eph 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us (Big Erf) with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] (heavenlies) in Christ:


Eph 1:4 According as he (God) hath chosen us (Big Erf) in him (God's foreknowledge) before the foundation (overthrow) of the world (kosmos), that we (BigErf) should be holy and without blame before him (God) in love:


Eph 1:5 Having predestinated (predetermined) us (BigErf) unto the adoption of children (placement as a son) by Jesus Christ to himself God), according to the good pleasure of his (God's) will,


Eph 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his (God's) grace, wherein he (God) hath made us (Big Erf) accepted in the beloved (lovely and acceptable in His God's sight).


Eph 1:7 In whom (God) we (Big Erf) have (has) redemption (freedom by payment of ransom) through his blood (Jesus Christ), the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his (God's) grace;


Eph 1:8 Wherein he (God) hath abounded toward us (BigErf) in all wisdom and prudence (good sense);


Eph 1:9 Having made known unto us (BigErf) (the mystery of his (God's)will, according to his (God's) good pleasure which he (God) hath purposed in himself:


Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation (administration) of the fulness of times (third heaven and earth) he (God) might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; [even] in him:


Eph 1:11 In whom (Christ) also we (BigErf) have (has) obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him (God) who worketh all things after the counsel of his (God's) own will:


Eph 1:12 That we (BigErf) should be to the praise of his (God's) glory, who first trusted (believed) in Christ.


Eph 1:13 In whom (Christ) ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom (Christ) also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,


Eph 1:14 Which is the earnest (small token/just a taste) of our (your)inheritance until the redemption (complete freedom) of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.


BigErf, Gods calling and purpose for you, is for you to walk like Christ, to help fill up the body of Christ, by learning the word of God accurately for yourself first and then taking that knowledge and healing the broken hearted.

Our calling is to walk like Christ, the only thing we are not called to do is to sacrifice our life to the death like Christ. We are to be LIVING sacrifices and walk towards others in the power and love of God and heal there broken hearts.

We do this by teaching them WHO THEY ARE, and by teaching them WHAT THEY HAVE as sons of God, and HOW TO CONQUER the