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12-07-2011 , 02:46 PM
i am new to this sub forum rgt but after a week of seeing the posts that splendor makes i dont see why the mods dont ban or delete many of his posts. he derails every single thread. his posts make having an educated discussion almost impossible.
12-07-2011 , 02:53 PM
Splendour is a 2+2 bot... Mods will never ban their own bot...
12-07-2011 , 02:54 PM
Splendours a woman
12-07-2011 , 03:18 PM
Just put her on ignore.

The mods won't ban her because she doesn't insult people and because people reply to her completely off-topic rants.
12-07-2011 , 03:40 PM
that and she (he) might be the greatest 2+2 level account of all time
12-07-2011 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by loK2thabrain
Just put her on ignore.

The mods won't ban her because she doesn't insult people and because people reply to her completely off-topic rants.
I disagree that she doesn't insult people but in a way that is probably unavoidable while discussing religion.
12-07-2011 , 04:16 PM
I can't believe I'm coming to the defense here, but...

She hasn't done anything that is ban-worthy, so why should she be banished? Her off-topic posts sometimes get deleted, and she gets warned, but that's up to the mod discretion. She is a lot less aggressive and insulting than a large number of 2+2 posters (not necessarily in this forum, which for all its controversy, I actually find to be less charged in its dialogue than other sub-forums). I don't agree with about any of her opinions, but she's entitled to them.
12-07-2011 , 04:22 PM
Close thread ASAP
12-07-2011 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Turn Prophet
I can't believe I'm coming to the defense here, but...

She hasn't done anything that is ban-worthy, so why should she be banished? Her off-topic posts sometimes get deleted, and she gets warned, but that's up to the mod discretion. She is a lot less aggressive and insulting than a large number of 2+2 posters (not necessarily in this forum, which for all its controversy, I actually find to be less charged in its dialogue than other sub-forums). I don't agree with about any of her opinions, but she's entitled to them.
I hope I can discuss this (in this forum) without opening myself up to infractions-

I don't think the issue is that she's insulting. I think the issue is that she doesn't appear exactly sane. He responses are often only vaguely related to what she's responding to. She rarely can follow a conversation. In fact, her appearance in nearly any thread means the topic is derailed. I genuinely think she (to be non scientific) is a little crazy. And having her in conversations is like a bunch of people trying to discuss something while being inclusive of some random street crazy person who has decided to insert themselves into a conversation.

On top of that most of her posts are largely filled with wrong information. Half of the threads she's largely consist of people explaining why most of the stuff she posted/linked to is wrong. (and I don't mean wrong like "there is no God" I mean basically facts that are easily corroborated)

For a sample of the "splendour effect" you can see that she recently posted in the politics forum (where people are largely unfamiliar with her) where half the thread is people trying to figure out if the person is a troll or not.

For what its worth, I'm saying this because I support a banning policy in general. I don't like the idea in general of censorship of ideas... that being said, there is a difference between supporting the inclusion of people whose ideas are different then yours and supporting the inclusion of people who very well seem to have some cognitive problems that they cannot reasonably discuss ideas (as it is, she often refuses to discuss things she posts which has lead to a chorus of people telling her to get a blog since she wants to post her thoughts and not have to endure responses from others. Furthermore, I don't think she CAN discuss ideas because she not only suffers issues with reading comprehension but she seems to constantly go on tangents with nearly every thread making it impossible to get anywhere.)
12-07-2011 , 04:58 PM
If you question Splendour's sanity, all you have to read is this thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...ection-518892/
12-07-2011 , 05:46 PM
RGT allows people to post about religion. It doesn't have to be a reasoned argument and it doesn't have to conform to many standards at all (apart from general 2+2 rules).

Splendour has repeatedly said she's not interested in debate. Granted her posts sometimes look like an attempt to argue for a conclusion, nonetheless if you take her at her word, what's the problem? She wants to say some stuff and link to some things she feels are related to religion, god or theology. You're allowed to do that here.
12-07-2011 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bunny
RGT allows people to post about religion. It doesn't have to be a reasoned argument and it doesn't have to conform to many standards at all (apart from general 2+2 rules).

Splendour has repeatedly said she's not interested in debate. Granted her posts sometimes look like an attempt to argue for a conclusion, nonetheless if you take her at her word, what's the problem? She wants to say some stuff and link to some things she feels are related to religion, god or theology. You're allowed to do that here.
Good toast. If Greatest I Am isn't banned for lack of sane content, and possibly trolling, then I don't think anyone will.
12-07-2011 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wizard-50
Good toast. If Greatest I Am isn't banned for lack of sane content, and possibly trolling, then I don't think anyone will.
+1
12-07-2011 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
If you question Splendour's sanity, all you have to read is this thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...ection-518892/
just read through a lot of this and although extremely funny at times. this pretty much sums it up
12-07-2011 , 06:02 PM
OP you have 254 posts.

Side with the haters if you must.
12-07-2011 , 06:10 PM
thanks for pointing that out. im sure you have about 15,000 incoherent trolling rambles about nothing.
12-07-2011 , 06:19 PM
I don't know you so I'll put you on ignore now.

But one comment first. This forum usually runs at so slow a pace its practically dead when I'm not posting. And I mean slooooooooooow.
12-07-2011 , 06:21 PM
splendour please take this and post the results im interested in what an extremely religious person like yourself will score http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf if you lie about it you will go to hell says god.
12-07-2011 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
I don't know you so I'll put you on ignore now.

But one comment first. This forum usually runs at so slow a pace its practically dead when I'm not posting. And I mean slooooooooooow.
that's a good point. When you show up there is inevitably an increase in traffic... though most of the traffic consists of one of the following-
-post of people pointing out why your facts are wrong or logic is flawed
-posts of people trying to figure out if you're 'for real' or 'trolling'
-general mockery of the content of your posts
-people trying to figure out why your post doesn't have any bearing on anything else in the thread including that which you just responded to

I guess the relevent question is what is more important-
(a) slow traffic with higher content
(b) high traffic but mostlylow quality content filled with misinformation and irrational ramblings

to keep the ever popular poker analogies...
Is it better to play fewer high quality hands and play them well?
or
Play as many hands as you can regardless of their quality and play them as poorly as possible?
12-07-2011 , 06:39 PM
The best part is that Splendour ends up driving more people away from Christianity than she brings in (which is probably zero). Any seeker reading Splendour's posts and seeing how she acts would be immediately turned away from wanting anything to do with people like here. Shes basically a walking Westboro Church.

That said, I agree with those saying she shouldn't be banned. She is obviously not doing anything that is ban worthy. Being an annoying, stubborn troll is not ban worthy. What should happen is that people should either stop responding to her (since she is not "interested in debate") or put her on your ignore list. Then the problem will fix itself.
12-07-2011 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kurto
that's a good point. When you show up there is inevitably an increase in traffic... though most of the traffic consists of one of the following-
-post of people pointing out why your facts are wrong or logic is flawed
-posts of people trying to figure out if you're 'for real' or 'trolling'
-general mockery of the content of your posts
-people trying to figure out why your post doesn't have any bearing on anything else in the thread including that which you just responded to

I guess the relevent question is what is more important-
(a) slow traffic with higher content
(b) high traffic but mostlylow quality content filled with misinformation and irrational ramblings

to keep the ever popular poker analogies...
Is it better to play fewer high quality hands and play them well?
or
Play as many hands as you can regardless of their quality and play them as poorly as possible?
Dumb
12-07-2011 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
The best part is that Splendour ends up driving more people away from Christianity than she brings in (which is probably zero). Any seeker reading Splendour's posts and seeing how she acts would be immediately turned away from wanting anything to do with people like here. Shes basically a walking Westboro Church.

That said, I agree with those saying she shouldn't be banned. She is obviously not doing anything that is ban worthy. Being an annoying, stubborn troll is not ban worthy. What should happen is that people should either stop responding to her (since she is not "interested in debate") or put her on your ignore list. Then the problem will fix itself.
and Dumber
12-07-2011 , 06:43 PM
Splendour, I'd like to say you shouldn't be banned, but you should get a RGT medal of honesty and courage. You know you're doing something right when a poster that is mentally 15 years old is petitioning for you to get banned in RGT.
12-07-2011 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Dumb
I guess she does sometime offer nothing but insults. I stand corrected.
12-07-2011 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Dumb
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splendour
and Dumber
We weren't expecting you to agree. It's just what many of us genuinely think. Take that to heart, please. All we ask is that you stay on topic.

No, she shouldn't be banned. She hasn't done anything against the rules. Plus she can be entertaining.
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