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My dad is an upstanding member of his Baptist church and my father-in-law is a Methodist minister. My conclusions I've made about your version of "Christianity" in no shape or form are applied to them. Nor do I judge my Christian or religious friends based on the actions of others. I've had some great discussions with my dad and with others about my views on religion, and I do believe that they are mistaken in their views, but I agree and disagree with some more than others... I don't apply a blanket to all Christians. That is just ridiculous and unfounded on your part to state that.

I do think that many, but not all, atheists are seeking truth about the world. I came to Christianity from more of an agnostic or maybe even a deist position. I did make a lot of consideration of atheism, though. My girlfriend around that time was an atheist, as well.

Although I found Christianity somewhat goofy at the time, I was always interested in discussing faith (but admittedly I would sometimes laugh at them behind their backs). Anyway, I don't doubt your sincerity.

Well maybe you're an exception.

I've been on the receiving end too many numerous times to mention from atheist stereotypes but it could just be douchebaggery.

Forums tend to promote stereotypes. It gives something for the group to latch on to.

No posts in response to this post please to keep OPs thread from derailment.

On that note... I've lived my whole life in an area of California which is highly religious... the San Joaquin Valley. I believe the two counties I've lived in had some of the highest percentages of yes votes on Prop 8. Anyway... as an atheist, I know there are certain people who don't associate with me much anymore once they knew I was an atheist. Most of them are pretty fundamentalist though and they think anything that goes against what they believe is either elitist or straight from the devil... so whatever.

BUT... I would never even think about comparing this small form of discrimination with the discrimination of someone based on their skin color or ethnicity. Two totally different things.

As mentioned earlier... polls have shown atheists are believed to be more untrustworthy than other groups, but atheists are not in any way more discriminated against.

lol, I like it when someone declares themselves the final word. If you actually wanted to prevent derailment, you wouldn't have made this post.

I don't really buy this. A lot of atheists consider faith (really lack thereof) rather deeply.

I find this extraordinary -- and a bit facetious..

I am exactly the opposite. As I obtained knowledge, through research, I realized that nearly everything I was ever taught about Christianity was bull****.

What could possibly have occured in your experience that convinced you otherwise?

Name one specific piece of knowledge that invalidates Christianity.

That's way too long and complex of a story for tonight.

So what is the slur ppl refer to atheists as? (i.e. n****r)

Virgins in 2-3 BC couldn't give birth.

I can wait. Is tomorrow good for you?

nice edit.

I'm used to Christian "angle-shooting".

Your logical construct for religion needs to be reevaluated.

I'm sorry. I obviously misunderstood your belief.

Was, or was not, Jesus born of a virgin in 2-3 BC according to your religion?

According to what we understand today, based on common sense, reason, science, and logic, could virgins give birth in 2-3 BC?

What "logical construct" are YOU referring to?

Your logical construct does not even allow for discussion.

Then, by all means, please construct a logical argument around a virgin birth in 2-3 BC that does allow for discussion.

I'm all ears.

i think there is a simple solution to this. atheists are way more publicly discriminated against than black people because there is no social taboo against bashing atheists so it is okay to talk ****. if you looked at things like wage gaps, loan interest rates, job selection, etc. i'd say there is way more discrimination against black people than atheists. what would be an interesting survey would be something like this:

give the option, would you choose a black person or an atheist to do this job for you?

doctor

accountant

real estate agent

stock broker

therapist

construction worker

electrician

if given truly anonymously i wonder how the average american would respond to this

I believe atheists are the only group of people that have state constitutional laws (admittedly not enforced) that prohibit them from running for state office's. I can only imagine how the people of the bible or any other group would react if those laws were directed at them.

But like others have said we can pass as ordinary Bible thumping Americans so as a whole were discriminated against less.

I was wrong in Massachusetts Non-Christians are not "equally under the protection of the law" either.

Assuming equivocal competence:

Always the black person for diversity points. That's not a slam on atheists because I'd also pick the black person over a Caucasian, Asian, Muslim, christian, or just about anything else.

Of course, the states used to be sovereign countries. In any case, it seems that Massachusetts has gone from the most conservative state to the most liberal one over its existence.

Amazing that you would ho hum and brush those laws off. Would you give the same response if those laws were directed at African Americans or you.

If states had laws on the books enforced or not that kept Christians from running for office it would start a new civil war until they were removed.

They should definately remove the barring of atheists but I'm of the opinion that the country is so far gone that none of the states will exist in 20 years anyway.

BS in what sense?

I don't think that Atheists are discriminated against, for starters not everybody can immediately identify you as an Atheist. Also I think some religious ppl might feel sorry or pity for Atheists, but I don't think they're "discriminated against" to a large extent.