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07-08-2010 , 04:34 PM
I can not appreciate any theist who does not actively speak out against the other theist posters who are clearly incapable of forming a rational or logical argument, and instead troll and minimize good threads into bickering about "Truth" and links to random off-topic psuedo-science. I think the only two theist posters that I have seen do this before is bunny and gansta. The rest think that just ignoring them is sufficient. If 4 years in SMP/RGT has taught us anything is that these types of posters will revel and gloat in the fact that only atheist posters are "attacking" them, and no theists are.
07-08-2010 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
I can not appreciate any theist who does not actively speak out against the other theist posters who are clearly incapable of forming a rational or logical argument, and instead troll and minimize good threads into bickering about "Truth" and links to random off-topic psuedo-science. I think the only two theist posters that I have seen do this before is bunny and gansta. The rest think that just ignoring them is sufficient. If 4 years in SMP/RGT has taught us anything is that these types of posters will revel and gloat in the fact that only atheist posters are "attacking" them, and no theists are.
Lol....

I came across an old Tickle test I took which told me I'm a "visionary philosopher" and many of these other theist posters are probably the same.

Whether or not they play by whatever standard you hold in your head some people are born naturals and most people would rather be born being able to handle the big existential questions then have to grind everything out logically.

Also people can be naturally smart whether or not they dot every "i" and cross every "t" like you would have them do.

Intuition is not inferior to logic it just doesn't use the same forms and you seem to have a little problem adjusting to when forms change. Your personal preference shouldn't rule around here or maybe you want to explain why they should.
07-08-2010 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Lol....

I came across an old Tickle test I took which told me I'm a "visionary philosopher" and many of these other theist posters are probably the same.

Whether or not they play by whatever standard you hold in your head some people are born naturals and most people would rather be born being able to handle the big existential questions then have to grind everything out logically.

Also people can be naturally smart whether or not they dot every "i" and cross every "t" like you would have them do.

Intuition is not inferior to logic it just doesn't use the same forms and you seem to have a little problem adjusting to when forms change. Your personal preference shouldn't rule around here or maybe you want to explain why they should.
I refuse to respond to a post that so poorly misrepresents and misinterprets what I said (to the point that I have to believe you are purposely trolling me). please take your poo flinging else where.
07-08-2010 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
I refuse to respond to a post that so poorly misrepresents and misinterprets what I said (to the point that I have to believe you are purposely trolling me). please take your poo flinging else where.
"One small step for man, one giant leap for a monkey."-Gunth0807- July 8, 2010

Last edited by Gunth0807; 07-08-2010 at 05:14 PM. Reason: sorry i just can't help myself.
07-08-2010 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
I refuse to respond to a post that so poorly misrepresents and misinterprets what I said (to the point that I have to believe you are purposely trolling me). please take your poo flinging else where.
No for years I've been trolled for inferior logic whatever that is.

But then I come across that I'm a natural.

Isn't that strange all the time everyone on here has been so ticked off because they can't read my shorthand (maybe its because they wanted to ignore the message?)....Oh well...c'est la vie.
07-08-2010 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour

Intuition is not inferior to logic it just doesn't use the same forms and you seem to have a little problem adjusting to when forms change. Your personal preference shouldn't rule around here or maybe you want to explain why they should.
yes, Intuition is inferior to logic and I'm quite certain this has been proven empirically.

Sorry.
07-08-2010 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
"One small step for man, one giant leap for a monkey."-Gunth0807- July 8, 2010
yet he has no idea why people say he's.....
07-08-2010 , 05:18 PM
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07-08-2010 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kurto
yes, Intuition is inferior to logic and I'm quite certain this has been proven empirically.

Sorry.
No Aver-aging tore this up 3 years ago in post #28.

You just suffer from selective memory to buttress your own arguments.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/47...98/index2.html
07-08-2010 , 08:46 PM
holy derail, batman
07-08-2010 , 10:26 PM
Lol at Christian appreciation thread being derailed by Christians that haven't been appreciated
07-08-2010 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
No Aver-aging tore this up 3 years ago in post #28.

You just suffer from selective memory to buttress your own arguments.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/47...98/index2.html
weird. Another splendour link that wastes everyone's time by not proving her point. the thread gave perfectly good examples why intuition is unreliable.
07-08-2010 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kurto
weird. Another splendour link that wastes everyone's time by not proving her point. the thread gave perfectly good examples why intuition is unreliable.
Nice try but I've got post #28 in that link with the neurological explanation that intuition in some people is better than logic in other people.

That intution is not shoddy logic.
07-08-2010 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Caesar88
Lol at Christian appreciation thread being derailed by Christians that haven't been appreciated
I couldn't care much less if the atheists appreciate me or not. It's not my job to care about that.
07-08-2010 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Nice try but I've got post #28 in that link
For the record, this is what you are referring to:

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Originally Posted by Aver-aging
To whoever said intuition is just shoddy logic, you obviously don't know what you are talking about. Intuition is so much more than 'shoddy logic'. For some people it's more reliable than actually being logical. For others, its a lot less reliable. It really varies from individual to individual.
This is not

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Originally Posted by Splendour
the neurological explanation that intuition in some people is better than logic in other people.
It's an assertion.

And none of this speaks to whether logic is superior to intuition, even if it speaks to which works better in certain people. That is, people are different, and even if you are bad at logic that doesn't mean that logic itself isn't good.
07-09-2010 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
For the record, this is what you are referring to:



This is not



It's an assertion.

And none of this speaks to whether logic is superior to intuition, even if it speaks to which works better in certain people. That is, people are different, and even if you are bad at logic that doesn't mean that logic itself isn't good.
Well said and that's a far cry from what kurto said above.

I won't be back in this thread to avoid the derail but the 2 are functionally different and insisting logic is always better is mostly from preference and ignores the very important underlying purposes for having intuition.
07-09-2010 , 05:43 AM
I appreciate Gunth for his honesty and truth-seeking.

I appreciate Splendour for his/her charitable and thought provoking posts.

I appreciate Pletho for his zeal.

I appreciate Megenoita for his detailed and knowledgeable posts.

I appreciate BTirish for his better explanations of my Catholic viewpoints.

I appreciate you atheists, theists, and in-betweens for helping me grow in my faith
07-09-2010 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jerok
I appreciate Gunth for his honesty and truth-seeking.

I appreciate Splendour for his/her charitable and thought provoking posts.

I appreciate Pletho for his zeal.

I appreciate Megenoita for his detailed and knowledgeable posts.

I appreciate BTirish for his better explanations of my Catholic viewpoints.

I appreciate you atheists, theists, and in-betweens for helping me grow in my faith
Atheists appreciating theists thread. I'm glad you have joined us.
07-09-2010 , 09:42 AM
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I appreciate Gunth for his honesty and truth-seeking.
This is a joke right? Gunth is dishonest and a troll. I had to put him on ignore because i was going to have an anurism reading all his BS.

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I appreciate Splendour for his/her charitable and thought provoking posts.
Seriously? Splendours posts are quite thought numbing to be honest. Go look at the recent threads she has started like the Ayers/Chomsky one and the dreams thread. Maybe go read her pyramids thread.

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I appreciate Pletho for his zeal.
Pletho has started many trolling threads in this forum which had to be locked due to its stupidity.

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I appreciate Megenoita for his detailed and knowledgeable posts.
Meh, he is not as knowledgeable as you think. Length does not equal knowledge.

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I appreciate BTirish for his better explanations of my Catholic viewpoints.
Haven't read enough of his posts to judge.
07-09-2010 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MelchyBeau
ganstaman. Our resident jew. Has often been confused with being an atheist.
Ganstaman isn't an atheist?
07-09-2010 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Lol....

I came across an old Tickle test I took which told me I'm a "visionary philosopher"
Lol indeed.
07-09-2010 , 10:35 AM
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This is a joke right? Gunth is dishonest and a troll. I had to put him on ignore because i was going to have an anurism reading all his BS.
This coming from RGT's biggest troll. And if i'm dishonest, your Albert Einstein.

Would love to hear your reasoning as to how responding to a poster you have on ignore is dishonest, and how you guys justify calling someone dishonest 100 times on an internet forum over that.
07-09-2010 , 10:41 AM
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What was that gunth?
07-09-2010 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Nice try but I've got post #28 in that link with the neurological explanation that intuition in some people is better than logic in other people.

That intution is not shoddy logic.
First off, one person's post is not proof. Its an argument.

Second, no one is disputing that one's person's intuitive action might be better then their ability to formally reason it out. But as aver-aging points out, its because the brain is calculating and analyzing a situation at a subliminal level very quickly. Its not a magical spiritual process. Its the brain analyzing information and drawing conclusions quickly.

This doesn't, of course, prove that intution is superior to reason. The brain is still doing quick reasoning. Its analyzing information and making decisions.

The problem is that the decisions are made quickly and don't necessarily determine when they're wrong.

This is all rathar obvious but I realize I'm typing this out to someone who thinks its a spiritual magical thing and so this is most certainly going over her head.
07-09-2010 , 11:26 AM
No Aver-aging really owns that whole logic/intuition thread with his additional posts:
#s 37, 46 and 47

The problem with this forum is that many of the arguments are hot air that because they make sense on the surface and match other people's biases are hit over the theist posters heads like they are the truth.

But factual investigations get to the bottom of things and frequently dispel the hot air arguments and fantasies of people. Reality has that affect: think of Hitler and what he promised Germany and what they actually got.

That's the way this forum rolls unfortunately...The atheists who have very little power in the world except in some of the worst systems like the U.S.S.R. and China and North Korea pointing to Sweden as an example....that is living life like wishful thinking and avoiding reality...maybe there's an underlying psychological reason for it...there usually is a reason for trying to escape from reality...

But disastrous results occur from not dealing with reality in real world politics: totalitarian governments and the 12th century anarchy period in Great Britain are a few examples.
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