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03-11-2009 , 07:09 PM
Devilsett666,

My views on "Assisted suicide" can only be judged in each individually case based on their circumstance so its hard for me or anyone IMO to set hard and fast rules over a internet forum.

Anyway I would like you to read this post of yours,

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Source? Maybe if you had the balls to tell us who you are talking about rather than make unsubstantiated generalisations you wouldn't have people making assumptions. In your post you were laughing at "people" in this thread (who are not theists i.e atheists of which there are 3 of us here) who were trying to argue against people being able to take their life without proper support and counseling. You should be ****ing ashamed of yourself. You call yourself a Christian and yet this is your contribution to a thread on assisted suicide.

It is in fact you that is the hypocrite with your attempts to tar all posters who are not in your religion with the same brush. You specifically refer to those who are "outside" your religion and then at the end of your post say it has nothing to do with me not living a Christian life or you claiming to be a Christian. This is exactly what your comments have to "do with". You are claiming that those who do not agree with the theists on here are hypocrites as soon as they express their views on morality or show compassion in a subject of discussion. This is your entire contribution to the controversial subject of assisted suicide in this forum and I hope your ****ing well proud of it because I sure certainly wouldn't be.
Most of it is just how you want to react after reading my post but in reality what I posted is far from what it actually says. Also how do I respond to such a post? I dont know were to start, the tone of post is one filled with hate how else do you explain the "****" symbols. Why would you try and use this to express what you want to be said. I never "tar" people with the same brush I have no idea were you got that from, maybe you are taking if from my use of the word "people" meaning all people again this would be wrong for me to say this in that context.
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03-12-2009 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RoosterCAD
Never said Atheists, never said you. Maybe your are feeling guilty that made you think I was talking about you.

You made the wrong conclusion of my statement.

I have read posts on this forum by others outside of my religion to be nothing more than bigots and show contempt to others who dont believe in their way of thinking. They then go on to state that they have a good moral code when they cant even show a little human descenty and mutually respect. This has nothing to do with you not living a Christian life or me being a Christian.
Yes well, only people who are religious think that their religion deserves any higher level of respect than any other voluntary belief.
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03-12-2009 , 11:52 AM
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Yes well, only people who are religious think that their religion deserves any higher level of respect than any other voluntary belief.
Never said higher. Just asking for a little human descenty and mutually respect to everyone as equals on the same level.

Thats all.
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03-12-2009 , 06:03 PM
Manupod, glad we cleared the air. I think your anaylsis of the history of this thread is accurate and I'm surprised your contrraversial expansion on your OP has not been taken up by more posters on here.

Rooster, your approach to this subject seems rather similar to mine. Do you not beleive in the Christian doctrine of "Sanctity of life"? Obviously you may interpret it diferently than others and if so could you explain. Do you beleive all foetus' have souls?
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03-13-2009 , 05:58 AM
Devilset666,

I believe that in extreme cases were a terminal ill persons standard of living has decreased dramtically that it becomes so physically painful and unbearable to live and that no medical support can help in the situation then I think it would be justified.

Yes I believe that unborn babies and all foetus have souls.
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03-13-2009 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RoosterCAD
Just asking for a little human descenty and mutually respect to everyone as equals on the same level.
You english write good.
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03-13-2009 , 08:07 AM
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You english write good.
Hopey,

Thanks for proving my point.
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03-13-2009 , 08:17 AM
Rooster,
Being snide and not caring about people's suffering or lives are entirely different matters.

Last edited by Gitro; 03-13-2009 at 08:17 AM. Reason: or lives
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03-13-2009 , 09:35 AM
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Being snide and not caring about people's suffering or lives are entirely different matters.
Its just another form of bullying. Why is it acceptable over the internet? Would you put with people acting this way towards you in your work place or everyday life?
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03-13-2009 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RoosterCAD
Never said higher. Just asking for a little human descenty and mutually respect to everyone as equals on the same level.

Thats all.
Why should I respect everyone? Why hold everyone in the same regard, or apply the same treatment to everyone?

I respect some people much more than others. I'm hardly ashamed of that.

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Its just another form of bullying. Why is it acceptable over the internet? Would you put with people acting this way towards you in your work place or everyday life?
It's not bullying. Bullying causes real harm to people, rudeness makes people uncomfortable. There's a big difference between harm and discomfort.

I don't think anyone is entitled to comfort. If you go onto a message board, you may be uncomfortable with what other people say. To me, that's just what it is to enter the real world. And yes, I put up with it in the real world, too. Sometimes I'll respond to rudeness with rudeness of my own, at other times I just ignore it and let them rail at me if they want. People talk ****, that's life.

Which isn't to say I don't like some class. But I know some very compassionate people who work very hard to help others and who are still rude. And some horrible people who do nasty things in the name of money and success who are polite to a fault. I don't think politeness is even correlated with kindness.
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03-15-2009 , 12:57 PM
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03-15-2009 , 01:32 PM
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03-16-2009 , 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RoosterCAD
Its just another form of bullying. Why is it acceptable over the internet? Would you put with people acting this way towards you in your work place or everyday life?

1. Because you're being ignorant
2. Yes, I thrive on it. It causes no more harm then you let it.

Example 1,I call someone an idiot.

Example 2, I break someone's nose.

Assuming that someone doesn't have skin about as thick as wet tissue, which do you think is more harmful.
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03-16-2009 , 06:00 AM
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2. Yes, I thrive on it. It causes no more harm then you let it.
This just shows me the type of person you are. I think you are very low and I dont respect you at all.

I just brought up the subject because some people in this world have actually commited suicide due to the fact that they were bullied through verbal harassment.
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03-16-2009 , 06:06 AM
There is a huge difference between making snide comments about people, and repeatedly digging into someone's self confidence over an issue they are sensitive about. I stand by it causing no more harm than you let it, but acknowledge that there are issues you're sensitive about and can't do much to change.

Also, I find it laughable that you, who created a topic that basically said that, were it not for your belief in God, you would be a raping, murdering immoral ****wad, seek to pass moral judgement based on a single comment.

Ironically, a report on two old women who helped someone with alzheimers die were just convicted on murder came up on TV.
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03-16-2009 , 06:37 AM
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Also, I find it laughable that you, who created a topic that basically said that, were it not for your belief in God, you would be a raping, murdering immoral ****wad, seek to pass moral judgement based on a single comment.
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Madnak - Why should I respect everyone? Why hold everyone in the same regard, or apply the same treatment to everyone?

I respect some people much more than others. I'm hardly ashamed of that
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Madnak - I don't think anyone is entitled to comfort.
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There is a huge difference between making snide comments about people, and repeatedly digging into someone's self confidence over an issue they are sensitive about.
I am just saying that people might be hurt due to comments made. Just shows us how you treat others. Its very sad and I feel sorry for you.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-26040,00.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-21194266/
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03-16-2009 , 07:58 AM
Because the postings of a mentally disturbed individual = not being nice and hurting someone's feelings?
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03-16-2009 , 08:10 AM
Gitro,

All I am saying is people have different ways of reacting to hurtful, spiteful comments made. Some people take it to heart and might even commit suicide.

In the case above Tim Kretschmer who felt hurt after comments made about him on a internet forum was enough for him to justify going on a killing rampage and then kill himself.
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03-16-2009 , 08:17 AM
Yes, just that one comment on an internet forum, completely separate of what he was dealing with daily and the fact that he clearly had something wrong with him in the first place.

I understand the point you are trying to make, but what I am saying is that things like mild insults over the internet won't do anything to a well-adjusted individual, and won't be any worse, and will possibly be a lot better, than what you deal with in real life. If you can't deal with **** over the internet, you really can't deal with it in reality.
And that this has very little bearing on how that person could treat people were the situation actually serious, such as the first person contemplating taking their own life.
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03-16-2009 , 08:26 AM
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but what I am saying is that things like mild insults over the internet won't do anything to a well-adjusted individual, and won't be any worse, and will possibly be a lot better, than what you deal with in real life. If you can't deal with **** over the internet, you really can't deal with it in reality.
Gitro,

Just because you think that mild insults are okay over the internet doesnt make it right. DUCY? I suppose if thats the morals you have then you just suck as a person.

Treat others the way you want to be treated.
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03-16-2009 , 08:29 AM
Did you read the 'mild' bit? Like, the stuff you put up with every day? I'm not saying it's morally right, just not immoral. And please don't make me counter you're 'you suck as a person' by trawling through your other topic. That's just too much like hard work.
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03-16-2009 , 08:42 AM
That was a "What if scenario" thats not how I live my live here and now. WOW can you not really see how that is different.

I feel so sorry for you. I wish you all the best in life and hope you are happy making snide comments about other and justify it just because it is mild.

RoosterCAD
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03-16-2009 , 08:45 AM
I'll see how that's different if you see how it's different to feel it's acceptable to make snide comments in certain situations and being a completely immoral bastard.
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03-16-2009 , 10:37 AM
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I am just saying that people might be hurt due to comments made. Just shows us how you treat others. Its very sad and I feel sorry for you.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-26040,00.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-21194266/
First, you just linked to a story proving that this message was a fake.
Second, it doesn't claim that a random remark on a message board caused anyone's suicide, but that ostracism and bullying at school did.
Third, harassment is very different from heated exchange. The former is not permitted at 2+2.
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