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06-23-2011 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorodeckyj
OMG just shut up. You are more and more wrong. Stop looking at me. This is not about me. Like someone said "I am only finger pointing to moon." Look at the moon, not at the finger.

I was asking, if you are liberated. Now I know you talk only bullsh... Now I know, you are not, you are saying something you heard or read somewhere, but you don´t know anything. You don´t know the truth. Thats ok. Just admit that and you can get to something real.

L Oh to da L

Last edited by stu+stu; 06-23-2011 at 03:13 PM. Reason: this guy's retarded
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06-23-2011 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ajmargarine
Consider this:
Read my last 4 posts and answer to every one of it you coward.
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06-23-2011 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ajmargarine
Observations of the outer can clarify inner realizations.
yes, except any observations of the outer are still inner observations. outside the light in your mind, everything is invisible and dark except for Ki/Chi or whatever word to unjustifiably name, truth perhaps.

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For example: the name of a thing is not the thing. The word "water" will never quench your thirst.

You know that's truth, boom, right away, before any thought in the mind. That's a realization.
But it can make me thirsty... so, I am desire?
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06-23-2011 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorodeckyj
OMG just shut up. You are more and more wrong. Stop looking at me. This is not about me. Like someone said "I am only finger pointing to moon." Look at the moon, not at the finger.

Aside from the hilarious tantrum from being owned what's interesting here, is that you think you can see someone else's moon, maybe i's possible, but it will always be a % grey/bull**** yet white in your minds white lens. But you are obviously doing it wrong.

Instead of weakening self, why not strengthen it until you get tired and absorb more of what you are made of? Just remember that contentedness with self is awesomeness and you can return to tranquility whenever. (which you also suck at otherwise you'd be an apethetic monk of janism or going in search of double rainbows). Also if you cannot see self have some cocaine or bud or alcohol or sex or excercise or food or loss and notice how self changes. Stop breathing and notice how self changes. Breath and notice self.
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06-23-2011 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob
This question is too easy for them... better to ask 'why is body and brain making these posts' all body and brain needs is energy and to reproduce.
The self was never there , body and brain makes these posts, no controller ,ever, never was , never will. Look at that and stop making awkward questions.
Look, You know the theory, stop pretending we're denying the existence of a body and brain.

It seems to be only get out clause.

As for ajmargarine, i appreciate your trying to help, why dont you answer my pm first and see can you relate to that? Or are you just someone who had a once off satori experience ?

If you are, why dont you engage with the questions we're asking and you'll crack it instead of trying to turn the questions on us.

As for other replies from earlier, ill reply in a few minutes.
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06-23-2011 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by stu+stu
L Oh to da L
why dont you actually respond to his post?
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06-23-2011 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorodeckyj
Read my last 4 posts and answer to every one of it you coward.
Where are you from that your English writing skills are so poor? 75% of your sentences are written incorrectly. Not good for an enlightened person with your vast knowledge of the truth.
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06-23-2011 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by adecleir
why dont you actually respond to his post?
You do it for me since I don't exist. Please say something cool in my behalf ok? Thanks
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06-23-2011 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by adecleir
As for ajmargarine, i appreciate your trying to help, why dont you answer my pm first and see can you relate to that? Or are you just someone who had a once off satori experience ?

If you are, why dont you engage with the questions we're asking and you'll crack it instead of trying to turn the questions on us.
The 'ask me' in the thread title is bulls/ it idoes not exist, there is only computer and eyes and dictionary.
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06-23-2011 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorodeckyj
Explain please: Who are you?
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Originally Posted by Gorodeckyj
Read my last 4 posts and answer to every one of it you coward.
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Originally Posted by adecleir
If you are, why dont you engage with the questions we're asking
But I did answer. In post #388. Your self didn't allow you to see it.
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06-23-2011 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by stu+stu
Where are you from that your English writing skills are so poor? 75% of your sentences are written incorrectly. Not good for an enlightened person with your vast knowledge of the truth.
pathetic , real desperation here tbh.
Why dont you look at that?
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06-23-2011 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by stu+stu
You do it for me since I don't exist. Please say something cool in my behalf ok? Thanks
Again, writing it off, so you can pretend we are denying the existence of a body and a brain.

Complete **** talk. Fight your own battles, answer his post properly.
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06-23-2011 , 04:54 PM
People who have abandoned their threads have given more than this clown. I've never seen such a bad thread in RGT. OP doesn't exist though and neither does this post, so..
it's all good _ guess.
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06-23-2011 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by adecleir
pathetic , real desperation here tbh.
Why dont you look at that?

man stfu or put me on ignore please
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06-23-2011 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by adecleir
Again, writing it off, so you can pretend we are denying the existence of a body and a brain.

Complete **** talk. Fight your own battles, answer his post properly.
Speaking of properly.. when I eat mumbo jumbo, it rarely digests properly. Sorry
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06-23-2011 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
As i said in my post. Its in my brain, where in my brain i do not know.
you dont know because its only a thought, not real. Look at that bit. Really look and focus on that bit, there is nothing real in it.
Like the thought of the spaghetti monster, the thought is there, but nothing else, nothing real there, no spaghetti monster, look at that.

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Just because i dont know where the I is in my brain doesn't mean its not in there. And just because i dont know doesn't mean someday humans wont find out where and how the I comes about. Its just a guess but i think someday we will know how the brain developed and manifests the I that separates us form the other.
Check this out if you want to see the direction scientists are going, they are actually on our side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPEdDcs_8ZQ

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I guess i could take small chunks of my brain out until the I disappears... But im not that dedicated to proving the I. Plus if i did get there im not sure id even know.
Theres nothing to prove, just look for it, its a feeling yea? Whereas that feeling? Look at that. Seriously, tell me where that feeling is.


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Can you confirm thoughts exist with a physical example of a thought? If not does that mean thoughts are not real and the bolded is wrong.
A thought exists, but its content is not real. Supermans character exists, but Superman is not real. The thought of that pink elephant exists, but the pink elephant is not real.

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Just because something is non physical doesn't mean its not real. The smelling of something good cooking on the grill is real to me even though i cant point to the smell in my mind and hold it up for you to examine.
A smell can 100% scientifically confirmed, the self cannot. Its not there, its based on nothing, just a need for humans to justify stuff they cant answer. Like "Who am I?"



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Someone with amnesia can have memory. They can speak, walk, and do a lot of things that are reliant on memory.
To be frank, i know nothing about amnesia, maybe they are liberated, I dunno.

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You did it again. I did not find so i must not mean it. I must not really be trying. I must not have an opened heart.....
Stop the sarcasm seriously, You did not find the self, because it is not there.


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I dont think its possible to have an actual truth and pure clarity in every situation. There are to many unknowns.
True, but it helps.

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You got to stop that. I never said my ego is a lie. I think its real.
Whats real about it? The only reason I said lie is because I read it from an older post of yours.

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As for why its helpful. I like ego because i think it gives me conciseness and it helps me differentiate between myself and the other mater in the universe.
Intelligence and awareness does this, not self, no you.
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06-23-2011 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stu+stu
People who have abandoned their threads have given more than this clown. I've never seen such a bad thread in RGT. OP doesn't exist though and neither does this post, so..
it's all good _ guess.
Once again, we aint talking about the existence of body and brain. Idiot.
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06-23-2011 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by adecleir
pathetic , real desperation here tbh.
Why dont you look at that?
I agree the pick at English writing skills should be perceived as arrogance.. as they do not see their own reading fault. However, you are not able to define your claims efficiently and it is difficult to paraphrase you in a manner one can understand. Your talk of self is talk of 'ego' but you do not use that word, because you think you have found something knew and your self desires the identity of having invented or seen the truth all on your own, when it is but a small level.

Last edited by Mt.FishNoob; 06-23-2011 at 05:17 PM. Reason: ups
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06-23-2011 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob

But it can make me thirsty... so, I am desire?
No you to be desire, but the thought of water probably triggers thirst alright.
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06-23-2011 , 05:10 PM
Must. Follow. The. Plan.
Must. Follow. The. Plan.
Must. Follow. The. Plan.

(insert zombie pic here)
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06-23-2011 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bear187
Holy wow. I actually read OP and most of this thread but I'm grunching the rest.

OP - It seems to me that on a deep personal level, being able to "lose yourself" brings you more happiness than whatever existence you had before. For some reason, existing in the way that the rest of us do just wasn't cutting it for you, so you decided, along with others who may share your same sentiments about their life, to adopt this new way to live your life. It's so fulfilling and wonderful you not only feel the need to share with others but some sort of odd obligation to "liberate" us as well.

You say that you were happy pre-enlightenment, but yet you still sought out enlightenment. So to you, anyone who accepts the existence of having a SELF is being brainwashed; but we don't know what we're missing so you have to let us know how wrong we're doing it.

To me this all seems like an elaborate way to change nothing in your life while having the feeling of having gained something profound. It's like when you do shrooms and have these earth shattering revelations that you later forget or realize how trivial and ******ed they were.
Cool story bro, but why dont actually look and see what we're saying is true instead of going on a rant about whether Goro was happy or not?
For me? I was happy, and was on no search whatsoever, I heard about Ruthless Truth about a week before I cracked it. I didnt even know what enlightenment was until then. (probably still dont)
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06-23-2011 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by adecleir
I have seen this already, proper lol moment. There is lots of perspective in that video to be fair, however 'athene' is not exactly someone who disregards the self. Also he is still ignoring or not taking into account the light.
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06-23-2011 , 05:19 PM
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06-23-2011 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by adecleir
Once again, we aint talking about the existence of body and brain. Idiot.
Ok. Without asking me any questions, can you please tell me what you guys are talking about?

(pretend you're writing it on a wall for everyone to see)
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06-23-2011 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob
Every single thought is like this, every single thought is real, except with the car outside we can follow the light and find something to touch, but touching that car is still in our imagination and the sensation of touch is based upon light, it is a type of light, a code.

with the thought of car it is only the light, it is very small. Light has no mass, thoughts have no mass. Self has no mass. But light is still real and self is still real. Everything is light, mass is not even real, its just energy made of light in its own little dimension that you can't penetrate


Dispute this logic plz ^
, its true you cannot prove the car is actually real, maybe nothing is real. I dont know. Our brains might be in a jar somewhere being fed info. BUT, what we can do use experience to the best of our knowledge.
The thought of car, lets experience it by double checking with all the other senses.
The thought of air? well you cant see it so maybe its not real? Well you can feel it, measure its content, use it, breath it.

The thought of self? Well its an idea, but check it with everything else.



now you made a post earlier which I cant find, where you mentioned how tilted you are that we are claiming something that anyone meditating for a while or looking into this stuff will crack.
Firstly, if you'd cracked it, you wouldnt be tilted by this, seriously. If someone told me they cracked it by flicking their ear 3 times Id tell them "TELL THE FVCKING WORLD ABOUT THIS, GET THEM TO FLICK THEIR EAR".
Also, more importantly, there are people that came onto my blog and other blogs, and subsequently on ruthless who HAVE looked into this for years, through different methods, buddhism, eckart tolle , all this stuff. But still admit they feel the self, they come on, show some honesty in where they are feeling it, and then click, they're done.
Here I showed it someone in this thread... http://www.ruthlesstruth.com/arena/v...php?f=3&t=1140

Laugh all you want it but read it properly first before you do.
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