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Originally Posted by newguy1234
I'm not positive I know what you mean by subjective, I guess you mean from my opinion.
But if you can see it for yourself then you shouldn't take my opinion for it, but you should judge the opinion either.
This is your crutch... You can't continually hide behind this type of statement, sorry it holds no weight - its all your own subjective view.
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I don't know the word monism but I get we mean choiceless awareness as the only 'belief'
this seems to me a fact, and I don't think its the only one.
I don't think I'm wishing for something, I am suggesting an objective awareness of what is, with no acceptance or denial of it.
Yes you are wishing for the world to be something other than your day to day perception of it - you deny causality over and over and go through some vague unexplained logic to get there.
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I wasn't arguing that it non causality is full of anything. It is certainly void.
This word I have troubles with, what are the two sides you feel i have defined?
Yes where is the duality?
You say this is false, that is true... Merely stating that is nondual doesn't get you there.
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Where is no-ism, where is the one where this is not deulism, not monoism, but .....
Yes and these teachings eventually shed the scriptures they are written on.
Buddhism
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To my understanding of the word dogma I don't have one. I would like to examine it if you feel I do though.
No need to go into it, it really doesn't matter of you do... The thing that matters is if you deny it and just not accept it. You state everyone is wrong but you and repeat the same talking points over and over, very dogmatic.
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I'm not here to say it wasn't, I'm here to ask what would happen if one never recollected such things again. I'm not interested in proving that means it didn't happen. I'm interested investigating the ramifications of doing such a thing. Not as the suppression of anything, but coming from the intellectually realization you do not need such 'memories' or validations of the past.
Why validate or invalidate anything ... Again you create a dichotomy. What point is there to forgetting the past? How would that serve any purpose? Why would you want to learn how to cook an egg over and over again? Again, its just nonsense.
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I'm interested in not making either of the conjectures.
A bit disingenuous, no? You constantly state that this so called condition view is false and noncausality is true... You do this a lot, which is, you shift your positions to match whatever piece you are seemingly replying to.
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I read the Bhagavad Gita today (audio), maybe that would be a good group study, it has many examples where people would understand things from your explanation, where we can talk about whether it has a different intended meaning.
It would appear you listened to the Gita, I have already paid my dues with it... It's interesting, start a Gita thread and see where it goes. Personally, I would be much more interested in the Lotus Sutra.
