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Originally Posted by neeeel
This doesnt make sense to me. anti government groups decreasing? But groups like antifa, womens march, etc are on the rise, or at least becoming more visible? Would you count a comedienne cutting off donald trumps head as "anti government"?
Hate groups increasing? Like what? Who? where?
Their guy got elected? What does that mean? Is trump liable for all his supporters beliefs. Or are you suggesting that trump is actually a racist fascist misogynist, and has encouraged similar racist fascists to come out of the woodwork, and attack people?
I suppose its possible that this is the case, that trump being elected encouraged people who hate to become emboldened. Im not sure how you would show that though.
Stop masking arguments as questions, it's a disingenuous tactic.
As for the FBI reports, they likely pertain to groups assessed as risks. If the women's marches suddenly arm themselves, discusses revolution online and start debating who to kill, I'm sure they'll make the cut.
Liable? Legally in a criminal courtroom, probably not. Ethically? Of course, he is in a position of authority and authority works. It's not without reason certain groups raise their arms in fascist salutes while shouting "heil Trump".
How to show it? It has happened countless times in history and is nothing new. If you want to wait and sit for analyses, do that. Your underlying claim in your posts in this thread, that it is unreasonable to make the link, is pretty much DOA however.
I've seen a mass murderer in my country shoot and kill 69 kids and every hatemonger that inspired him was in the media afterwards telling us how unfair it was to blame them. But go figure, sometimes... when you stand on some proverbial or real soapbox and tell everyone how some arbitrary outgroup is the biggest threat to their lives, sometimes... just sometimes someone will listen and take it to heart.
Just this week someone listened and went to a baseball game and tried to kill a politician. That's what you get when everything has to be black and white. When you portray someone as the enemy instead of someone who disagrees. What people in positions to influence say matters.