Your quote isn't from Popper, it's from Rosenfeld.

Popper states " In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion"

Which, incidentally, is almost identical in conclusion to your Jefferson quote.

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My mistake. Thanks for the correction.

I still have reservations about Popper but less so, now. He sill waffles a bit (see bolded). Rosenfeld, obviously, should have been strangled in the crib. Popper should have been allowed to advance to about age 12 and then dipped in tar and set on fire. But most of my quibbles about him are different than the subject of this thread.

Which I see is about American Christianity's response to Donald Trump. I have very little interest in that particular subject.

The "Nashville statement" was a tremendous error by the trump-aligned religious right. They willingly exposed their great flaw of divisiveness.

While I agree that it's an error, I'm not sure that Trump had much to do with this. It's the sort of statement the group would have put out in any situation. But my opinion is not the only one out there...

https://www.christiantoday.com/artic...int/112827.htm

Also, here's a response:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a39c02b27ab5

Yeah I have been tracking responses.

It's a spiritually diverse nation after all..

...though does that reflect in the trump White House? Who was represented today at the Sunday prayer day proclamation?

https://youtu.be/67GE4Eq45a8

This excellent response also makes the trump regime connection and the underlying theocratic intention behind the statement.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...changed-person

Some segments of the Evangelical population are trying very hard to parse between Clinton's affairs and Trump's "alleged" affairs. As long as you finish paying out the money before the election, it's all good because it didn't happen in office?

White Evangelicals, This Is Why People Are Through With You

Pretty scathing, but I suspect many white evangelicals are going to be pretty "Meh" about what he claims they've lost in the bargain.

Some of those political theologists are so mistake-riddled they usually resort to crying for manners and about fetus once confronted.

Meanwhile I'm still trying to figure out why some say they are persecuted here while Christian churches are all over operating freely. This is basic stuff they can't seem to conquer without resorting to condemnation.

Two articles from The Atlantic:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...tation/554066/

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-trump/554831/

Is there some way invoking God for power over others, such as with government, is not vain?

Here's a WaPo profile of a small-town Southern Baptist church in Alabama, with interviews from congregants and church leaders about Trump.

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I don’t ever hear them complain about the Hyundai plant, but that’s in the feared “Montgomery area” and the “good kind” of foreigners

However the baptists near our school aren’t much trumpist at all, but north and south Alabama aren’t central Alabama. It’s the local talk radio channels which tie them all together. Virtually “state radio” for the republican majority- “vote party no matter what” is an openly used narrative. It’s actually wild what Alabama locals disclose openly on the talk radio and then agree about.

A lot of US evangelicals are getting dangerously similar to the taliban in rhetoric.

That's a pretty outrageous and incendiary claim. How about posting some evidence?

I don't think this is really fair. I rather doubt they are similar. But even so, the big problem with the taliban* wasn't the rhetoric, it was the actions. Like, I both disagree that US evangelicals are at the stage of talking about something equivalent to throwing acid on girls faces who go to school, but they certainly aren't actually doing it.

Religious schooling, little respect for liberal (as in classical, not political) values, the marriage of arms and religion, reverence of war, attacks on woman's rights, religious law over judicial law, plenty of nationalistic conservatism and of course the end goal of uniting the nation under one god. These are all talking points which maybe ten years ago were fringe, but which have now become common parlance. Heck, you even have candidates for federal judges who have stated that the law of the land is secondary to the law of the bible. Newsflash: That is theocracy, and it is accepted to the extent that it can pass (or at least can very nearly pass) a senate majority.

I certainly have no issue calling them out, I think a large part of the movement has become a political tumor and through the use of immense wealth and political power it is spreading to Europe as well.

If you had said that, I wouldn't have pushed back. But I STILL don't think, even accepting every one of your points, that this amount of similar to the taliban. Theocracies aren't all the same.

I also think in the west, comparisons to "the taliban" is comparing to this sort of symbol of something really bad. Much like comparing to the nazis (and I once read, before ww2, the classic "super bad" thing everything was compared to was pontias pilate). But if you actually open up what "the taliban" is, it has a very intellectually interesting syncretic traditions. There is the large diobani fundamentalism, but it was actually heavily influenced by local pashtun traditions. The taliban did, after all, originate as a regional response of a minority group in the power struggle between the mujahadeen after the collapse of the soviet union. And if you open up pashtunwali and some of the tenents of bravery and hospitality and honor and forgiveness and all that....well....ok....that blended into some absolutely descipable horrors, but does it actually look like what we are talking about with western evangelicals? I think when you try and investigate the comparison at anything more than a broad "let's call them something we unquestionably think of as bad" brush, there is little to the comparison.

Zeal, egomania, haughtiness, gossiping, narrow interpretations, denied prejudice, violent mentality, conditional love. I’ll testify I have seen it all among the trump regime and party’s new state religion.