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Originally Posted by lagtight
You said you favored fines and incarceration for religious folks. How is it bad faith of me to ask you to cash that out a bit? (Pardon the pun.)
I broadly said that I favored various measures to eliminate religious faith in the public, possibly including fines and prison, and you come to demand all these specifics. I'm a guy with some half-baked ideas on the internet, I'm not the Unibomber, I don't have a thousand page manifesto to which I can refer. Edit: let me not forget the larger point, which is that NONE OF THESE OBJECTIONS OR QUESTIONS ADDRESS THE MEAT OF MY POSTS ITT.
I'll give you a related example. When a child is forced to regularly attend religious services, my society could view this as child abuse (depending on degree) and said children could be taken away from the custody of the parents. These children would be placed in secular public schools and be given to foster parents who don't wish to impose this massive burden of a shared centuries-old religious ideology on their kids. Now, this is very broadly stated, and there are various exceptions, and I sadly don't have specifics. But hopefully this will elucidate my stance further.
I hold no burden to EXACTLY detail out the specifics of my Platonic society. And I can't, because I don't know them. I know that this is foreign to you, as you have your entire ideology and religion and worldview conveniently laid out for you from birth from those deeply learned 5th Century sheep farmers, but that's as good as humble old me can do.
Edit: I would not necessarily START with fines and prison. I'd prefer to render society non-religious in a non-punitive way. But such a thing might be impossible otherwise (or maybe not?)
Last edited by DifferentName; 08-12-2021 at 08:38 PM.