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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
Other than that, you are wrong (I'm not going to bother pretending you actually asked something). You are implicitly arguing as if there isn't evidence for God's existence, which is wrong.
Yes I am, but by suggesting that one would need faith, which is a is a belief unsupported by evidence, to deny the existence of god, you yourself are implicitly arguing that there is evidence for God's existence, which is equally wrong, by your standard.
Unlike gravity, which I would be hard pressed to deny both the existence of and the evidence that supports that claim of existence, the evidence for god is never anything but subjective interpretations of things observed or imagined, nothing that couldn't simply be described as wishful thinking, so faith is not required to deny it, I simply remain needing to be persuaded in the face of a lack of convincing evidence.
So, unless you can show that there is such convincing evidence that an act of faith would be required to deny it, it's my view that faith can't be used to achieve an atheistic outlook.
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
Have you stopped always being wrong yet?
Yes, quite a very long time ago. Do you think that there will come a time when you stop making unhelpful personal comments in these conversations?
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
If you want to discuss something, don't ask loaded questions. If you want to argue a point, don't hide behind pretend questions. It is dishonest.
I was presenting the question and my objection in the same sentence having assumed I speaking to someone who would recognise that and not need to explain what a loaded question is and why I shouldn't do it.
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