I can't really understand what you are asking but it sounds like a bad deal for your friend for sure.

That being said, you can suggest whatever you want to your backer.

hm ok

i am new to staking and the 1st point sounds wonky. ok i compensate the make-up 100% until claim winnings!

18mans are relatively low variance compared to 180s. so i think shipping 20% of winnings is reasonable. and why is it bad to send him max 400$ (its 20% of the EV).

the deal never ends with a minus for him. either i play until i owe him 0,- or i compensate the make-up from my own pocket

i have good proven results, but just low on bankroll.
or is a 70/30 offer better?

what i was asking: if it is completely silly to offer a max amount i ship per month from my winnings.
he doesn't need the money and i can play it +ev.

sry for the confusion, thanks

first off, you getting such a deal (80/20) is ridic.

secondly, you trying to put some sort of "max win" for your friend is ridic. you are essentially stealing from him. why should you get all the benefit of the run good?


if your friend goes through with the above stated deal, he is an idiot. and you are essentially stealing from him.

^ agreed seems absurd

hm after thinking about the "max win" you are right. it wasn't my intention to steal although it looks like that. i cancel this completely!

but why is 80/20 ridicolous? sorry i just dont see much, if any risk for him just playing low 18mans. ofc i can run bad as hell. But it is agreed that the staking deal does not end with makeup / losses for him.

i dont know what standard % are for 18mans, but we talk about relatively low variance 18mans, not high variance 180s or MTT where a 80/20 is in fact ridicolous.
i find 20% is rather good for the backer! providing someone with a BR for 7$ and 15$ and expecting a few 100$ per month? if he doesn't need the money for a while, its a good investment

anyway, ty

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honestly since i am new to this whole staking issue, i dont fully get the point of staking. For me its playing games, where i am not bankrolled for, but have an edge playing those.

If i can play with my own BR staking is silly (?) since its like playing with my own BR; because i am not allowed to end the deal with make-up.

is there a FAQ for dummies? maybe i should play on my own because i dont know if that staking deal is right for me

ty

is there a reason you want to give up 20% of your profits if you have the bankroll and are confident you are a big winner?

mainly due to (short term) variance. A 3k games down at 18mans and even longer is possible of course. then you loose confidence pretty quickly.
in the longrun its 20%, which is somewhat substantial. But i can play shortterm at zero risk.

It's worth a try and playing constantly A-game even in a down has some value too. i have to think about it, if the whole staking thing makes sense for me.

Hello guys
I would like to make a noob question about stacking and forgive me if it will sounds weird..
I have won a satellite for a live main event of 550€ which starts in a few days ..I am a break even player with only 2 live main event entries in the past(don't have the required bankroll to play regularly) one of 1000€(finished 10 places before the prizes) and an other one of 500€ with both tickets won from satellites..
Do I have the right to ask for stacking(not at this forum I am talking in general)or is out of question because 1)I won this ticket from a satellite, 2)I am not winning regularly?

Again my question might be stupid but I am asking this in general to figure out how it works..
Hope you got the meaning and sorry for my english..

You can always try to find investor, lack of experience/winnings can only make it harder. You are the seller and your product is yourself, so it's up to you how do you do it.

You asked "Does anyone know where I can get opportunity of staking? "
and posted your stats.

This whole forum is "staking opportunities".
Pick some ... apply.

Or post your request in the < 6 months thread.

I deleted 2 posts because they weren't discussion posts.

Ok, thakn you for annswering me, i have jist only one more question, how can I write PM to sem user on 2+2, maybe i am donkey, but didnt find it..

I got approached by someone to at my local live casino to help me take a shot at 2/5nl putting up a bit in which we would split 50/50.

Ive been doing quite well at the 1/2 300max over the last 45~ hours, but I don't play that much, probably 10hrs a week.

Am I better playing 1/2 on my own money or take the shot at 2/5 with help from the other guy?

Like most live casinos everyone is ****in terrible, 95% of the 1/2 players are terrible.

how soft is the 2/5 game? Do you feel that 50% of your hourly in the 2/5 game is > 100% of your hourly in the 1/2?

Hi guys, me and my friend are having a bit of difficulty coming up with a reasonable deal which is fair for both of us.

He is the backer, I am the horsee. He has backed me before on multiple occasions for live cash, online cash, online mtts and he buys % of my tournaments regularly. He knows I am a winning player and I have decent results to my name when he has had % in me such as final tabling WCOOP $320 few months ago, coming final 2 tables in WCOOP $215 and 5 or so top 100 sunday mil runs.

That's the history, now we are agreeing a new deal which starts the new year which will comprise of mtts only. What is a fair % deal including rakeback and not including rakeback? And how often should cashouts be made? And last thing is, are disappearing makeup schemes standard now as i have noticed a few?

Thank you in advance.

I have a question about Omaha cashouts. I've been talking to someone about staking him for PLO cash games. He wants to do monthly cashouts. I'm uncertain if it's in my best interest to do this, since Omaha is really swingy. Assuming he's a winning player in the game, what kind of percentage should I get of the profits if I have to provide 100% of the money and he gets monthly cashouts? Should I go for cashouts after a certain number of sessions instead, in case he gets lazy for a month, or runs bad and needs a break?

If you are worried about him stopping putting in hands after he's up a certain amt of buyins on the month maybe just do cashouts when he is up x amt of buyins? As long as it is a long term deal with makeup and you believe he is profitable then it shouldn't really matter that much how you do the cashouts.

After each month the makeup would go to 0.

if hes down money why would makeup go to 0?

What is the "mark up"?

I hope you trust this guy to always play optimal. If makeup drops to 0 at the end of the month and he's down a lot on the 31st then he would be incentivized to gamboool.

there is no reason to do this unless u like giving away money

if u want to give him more because he's a good horse, then give a higher split %

Why aren't stakers/ thread makers penalised in some way when they don't respond to applications.
It isn't that hard and time consuming to write: "sorry, but you are not what are we looking for". Especially when they bump their thread and then don't respond, IMO if you don't have the time to respond to applications don't start a staking thread.

I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly, or maybe I don't agree with it.

Are you saying that they should respond to every applicant's post in a thread telling them they've been denied? I mean, it may very well be courteous, but not sure if that should be enforceable. Also, some of these threads get a ton of applicants; it may be harsh to have this as a rule.

Or do you mean that you pm them and they don't respond to that? That wasn't the vibe I was getting from your post though.

Hopefully others will chip in with their opinions, but I'm not sure if this is or has been a big concern. If it is, we can discuss something then.