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12-02-2008 , 07:44 PM
***THIS THREAD IS FOR PEOPLE LOOKING FOR A STAKE WHO HAVE BEEN TWOPLUSTWO MEMBERS FOR LESS THAN SIX MONTHS***


no share selling
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Originally Posted by gtpitch

***READ THIS***

This will be the last time I say this and then I'm going to start infracting for it -

This thread is not for selling shares. If you are under 6 months and can't be marketplace approved then you can't sell shares on 2p2. Its too hard to police this thread with all of this going on.



screen names required
Quote:
Originally Posted by JL514
If you request a stake in this thread you must post your site screennames. Even if you post an OPR link or SS pic or PT3 pic with your screenname in it, your screenname must be typed in your post for searchability.

This thread is long and it makes me angry, so failure to comply with this simple rule is going to get your post deleted and double infraction points.

You've been warned.
Repeat:
This thread is not for selling shares.
If you are not marketplace approved then you can't sell shares on 2p2.
For MARKETPLACE APPROVAL conditions click HERE.



ALL OF THE STAKING SUB-FORUM RULES APPLY IN THIS THREAD

WARNING: Many staking deals lead to hard feelings and lost funds. Only enter into a staking arrangement if you trust your partner and if you are willing to lose your investment

Neither Twoplustwo nor its moderators give any endorsement explicit or implicit to any of the posters in this thread. The advice in this thread is not comprehensive and there is no guarantee that you will not lose your money if you follow the guidelines herein

REMINDER: Staking someone with few posts on twoplustwo who you do not know from the strategy forums is a massive risk and is probably a hugely -$ev investment. Staking someone with a lot of posts who you do know from the strategy forums is just a very large risk

It is highly recommended that, if you choose to stake someone with less than 6 months membership at 2+2, that you know them personally or have very strong references about their character and playing ability.

If you are looking to be staked please include the games and levels which you are willing to be staked to play and include all relevant information about why you are a +EV investment.

You are permitted to bump your staking request no more than once every four days.

It would be helpful if you posted your online screennames and screenshots of your pokertracker results, sharkscope stats, or a link to your pokerdb page depending on what games you are looking to get staked for. Realize that the more detailed and professional your solicitation for a stake is the better chance that there is that someone will take you on.

Staking someone is a major risk. Before entering into a staking deal make sure that you have the other person's real name, and telephone number.

Many staking deals fall apart over a misunderstanding. Make sure that you are abundantly clear about the exact levels and games that the stake is intended for. It is highly recommended that you put everything in writing including: Size of stake, games that can be played under the stake, method of splitting profits, termination clauses, what happens if the stakee plays outside of the contract, etc.

Anyone using this thread with the intention of scamming another poster will risk the forfeiture of their twoplustwo account.

Below is some valuable staking advice that has been posted on twoplustwo. If you read a helpful article on staking please send a PM to a mod so that it can be added to this thread.


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This post will be edited to include staking advice. If you come across any advice that you believe would help the staking community please send one of the marketplace mods a PM so that the information can be added to this thread.

Please read that post prior to entering into any staking arrangements. We make no promises however that the information in that post will protect you or benefit you or yada yada please don't sue us




The following comprehensive article was written by Bond18

I’ve had this segment requested a number of times and there seems to be a lot of questions and misinformation within the community about staking arrangements. I’m not the most qualified to speak about being a person who is staking (which is fairly irrelevant since very few reading are interested in starting a staking empire) but I do feel quite qualified in talking about being staked. First, a little history in my experience being backed.

Outside a couple of one off deals I had in tournaments I’ve had two large backing experiences. The first was with a friend from Milwaukee named Rob who knew I had come close to busting my roll. I approached him about backing and he was pretty eager at the chance since he knew I worked quite hard at improving and was trustworthy. Our starting deal was a fairly strange one, he gave me a roll of $10,000. If I lost it I was expected to pay back half through whatever methods I ended up making money from (that is, one day getting a job) and if I won he got 1/3rd of the profits. Basically, I was half staked. I was under Rob from around December 2005 until September 2007. In that period I think I made Rob something like $60,000 for himself, though I’ll never be entirely sure. Our basic arrangement was that I played whatever I thought was appropriate, but always okayed what I intended through him ahead of time and kept things within the bankroll. Our deal ended very amicably with him having made a sizeable profit and my having built a considerable roll with minimal risk for myself. Rob had both my online and live action, though if I chose to take an event off and play it for myself that option was always available to me.

My second and better known arrangement as been my deal with Timex . I told Timex around April 2007 that I’d be going to the WSOP and if he wanted to do any backing for the events I was open minded. Timex put a team together and had us sign contracts that said we were obligated through the entirety of the World Series. When the series was over I had lost him $61,000 and he asked if I wanted to keep going in future live events. We kept the deal running and also included the highest stakes online tournaments (mostly 1k buy ins and occasional FTOPS and WCOOP events) which I am too nity to play. At one point with Timex I was in over $125,000 worth of make up, but at the current point the number sits around $90,000. Our deal is 60-40 in his favor and he is accountable for all loses.

Now on to less self absorbed content; the most frequent question I see asked about staking is what a standard deal is. It’s hard to say exactly what the standard deal is, based on the quality of player, the stakes he’s playing for, his volume of play, whether he’s doing both online and live, etc. It seems though that the majority of staking deals are either 60-40 in the backers favor with make up or 50-50 with make up. As far as deals with no make up are concerned (often done for a single event situation) the standard seems to be 80-20 in the backers favor, though considering the variance involved there those numbers can fluctuate to a good degree.

Next most frequently asked seems to be how to get staked. This is a pretty elaborate topic. I think a list of qualities and steps towards getting backed will be appropriate here:

1. Honesty: First and foremost a player who wants to be backed needs to be considered trustworthy. If you don’t have this you are pretty much useless to a backer. Backers don’t want to operate like babysitters and they don’t want to have to deal with players who might be lying, stealing, or omitting details to them. Having an honest reputation within the community goes a long way.

2. Communication: A player needs to let his backer know what he intends to do and how. He needs to let him know what he needs and what he’ll provide. One of the most common problems in backing arrangements is a player playing an event and the backer and player not being entirely sure if the other thinks he has his action. If there is any event you either intend or hope to play, you always must let your backer know in advance to get approval unless he has given you free reign ahead of time.

3. Quality play: Smart backers know that skilled play is considerably more important than results. I can’t stress enough that just because you have some killer results doesn’t mean you deserve backing. There are plenty of random donks who run hot over a small sample and final table or take down a few tournaments and seem to think they are now entitled to a sweet backing deal. A backer wants to see a quality thought process and skilled play much more than he wants to see a few big tournament scores. If you want to establish a reputation for quality play you really ought to be contributing to strategy discussion in poker forums. It’s not only a great way to improve and learn from some of the better minds in the game, but it’s a way to prove that you think deeply about the game as well. When approaching a backer who is less than familiar with your play be willing to submit a number of animated hand histories for him to evaluate. More can be learned from this than giving them a link to your OPR stats and saying “look how much I crush dude! Ship the stakage!” As Timex puts it: “one thing to keep in mind is that even though you may be a profitable player when covering 100% of losses and getting 100% of profits, that isn't equivalent to being profitable covering 100% OF losses and getting only 60% of profits(which is the situation that the backer is accepting). So if you are a reasonable winner at your games, and think you would like a backing deal to play slightly bigger games, put yourself in the backers shoes and realize that if you aren't killing the smaller games, its difficult for you to be profitable enough at the bigger games to make it a profitable investment for the backer. And also, don't PM me, I'm more or less done looking for new horses at the moment.” Thanks boss.

4. Be easy going and accommodating: A backer doesn’t want to deal with someone who is demanding and inflexible. If a backer asks you to do something that’s reasonable, such as not play a certain tournament, don’t get your ****ing panties in a knot and your ego offended. It’s okay to tell a backer you’d really like to play a certain tournament, but going on and on about how massively +EV you are is annoying and depending on who you are and which tournament you’re talking about, possibly delusional.

5. Keep good records: Both the backer and the player should be keeping records. This will prevent possible mix ups in the future. Nothing quite dissolves a backing arrangement like an argument over money, so make sure you keep close enough track of what’s going in and out that this shouldn’t happen, and if it does, it’s easily rectified.

6. Approaching a backer: It’s pretty well known who the main backers are in the online poker community. The most normal way most are approached is either through PM or email. If you’re some nobody messaging out of the blue I don’t like your chances. However, if you have well respected friends in the poker community who are willing to vouch for your ability and trustworthiness this will help. Be mindful though, that establishing yourself in the community ahead of time is pretty relevant. If you’re a new player who has zero reputation, a few good results, and few connections your chances of getting backed are slim to none. Most of the major backers get numerous requests for backing a day, so your reputation needs to proceed you to have a realistic shot.

Next, people often ask ‘is backing right for me?’ First of all that depends on what you’re trying to achieve. Most people seeking backing are looking to get backed for what they can’t afford, and among internet players that mostly means being backed for live play since the buy ins are so high. Most players would obviously prefer to be staked only for live play and keep online for themselves, though these deals are not terribly common. The majority of backing deals, especially for less established players or new to the backing scene, are for a combination of online and live poker. You need to consider though, that in this kind of deal you run the risk of accumulating a high amount of live make up and then having to work it off with all your online volume, meaning you have no actual income for perhaps months at a time. These kind of backing deals give you the opportunity to make a large live score, but conversely put you in a position you’ll see zero online winnings if you run bad live.

We should also discuss make up. For those who aren’t aware make up is similar to debt but not the same thing. Make up is what you are down on your backing arrangement, but not necessarily money owed to your backer. That is to say, if you are in make up for $50,000, and have a net worth of $100,000 and for some reason are no longer able to play poker, you do not owe the backer $50,000 out of your own money. As far as leaving a backing arrangement in make up for no reason goes, unless you are under contract there isn’t necessarily repercussions in the traditional form of something like a lawsuit (or broken legs) but there are factors to consider. First of all if you leave a backer while in make up for no good reason it is very unlikely you’ll ever find another backer since word of your actions will get around. Also, some would consider this unethical, and it is a considerable grey area of morality. While you indeed have the right to opt out of your staking arrangement while in make up for no legitimate reason, the damage it will do to your reputation in the poker community is something you need to weigh it heavily against. A backer and a player need to set the conditions of what happens when a player is in make up but wants to change or leave an arrangement ahead of time.

Lastly there are two quick questions that often come up. First, in the case of FPP’s, who is entitled to them, the backer or player. The vast majority of the time it is the player who is considered entitled to the FPP’s. The other issue deals with expenses, travel and accommodation can be quite expensive in regards to live poker. While there are some deals that include these, the majority of the time the player is expected to pay these out of pocket.

I hope this settles some of the confusion.

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The following is a sample backing contract for the WSOP events.

Disclaimer: This document was created by a twoplustwo poster and is not endorsed by the owners of this forum. It has not been reviewed by any lawyer. It may or may not be legally binding in your jurisdiction and may or may not be missing vital details that you should discuss with the other party in the deal. Do not enter into deals with people you don’t trust as it is questionable whether this document alone will protect you!


Contract for backing arrangement between [] ("Backee") and [] ("Backers"):
Adjust percentages as appropriate

1) This Contract will be governed and executed under the internal laws of the State of [Nevada]. All of the terms listed and defined herein are assumed to mean exactly what is stated in the Contract.

2) This is the only binding understanding between Backers and Backee, and no other oral or written modifications to this Contract will have any effect, except for the specific options listed in paragraphs 3 and 14.
3) Backers will provide ("stake") Backee with the buy-ins to play a set schedule of poker tournaments (Attachment A). Each Backer will individually pay 1/2 the total buy-in for all tournaments that Backee enters under the stake, for a total of 100% of the initial buy-ins. In return, if Backee receives any prize money in a tournament, he will first refund ("makeup") each Backer's buy-in percentage for every tournament in full, then pay Backers 25% each of any remaining profits from these tournaments, for a total of 50% of the profits after the makeup is calculated.

4) Makeup is defined as outstanding debt from tournament buyins, accrued on a rolling basis. Makeup money must be paid back before any profits are split. For example, if Backee spends $120k in buy-ins and has cashed for $200k, he must pay $120k to Backers (split 50% each, in accordance with paragraph 3) before the remaining $80k can be split as profit. The final $80K is then divided between Backers and Backee on a 25%/25%/50% basis, again in accordance with paragraph 3.

5) If Backee owes makeup at the end of the schedule's completion, or if Backee does not owe makeup but wishes to continue on the stake, Backers have the option to continue this Contract in exchange for providing a further $100k in buy-ins. This means that Backers have a right to stake Backee in any live poker tournaments of their choice – meaning the only live tournaments Backee may enter must be preapproved by Backers under the terms of this deal – until another $100k in buy-ins has been accrued. The terms for this further stake will be identical to those in this Contract, and any existing makeup will continue to accrue. If this option is exercised and ends with the Backee still owing makeup, this Contract will terminate and the Backee is released from all obligations to repay it unless a new Contract is entered into by mutual agreement.

6) Backee may leave the stake at the end of the set schedule of tournaments only if Backee does not owe money in makeup, and in no case before Backee's play in the World Series of Poker Main Event has concluded. For future staking following the listed schedule of events, Backee may leave any time the stake is above the initial investment (including any makeup owed).

7) Any time the overall net profit on the stake, after any makeup has been deducted, exceeds $200k, Backers and Backee will immediately split the profits as stated in point 3. Profits will also be split after any individual win exceeding $400k. The final split of any profits will occur at the completion of the listed schedule of events in Attachment A, unless otherwise agreed upon by both parties as per points 4 and 5 above.

8) All local, state, federal and international taxes, if applicable, are the responsibility of the individual receiving their share of the proceeds under this Contract. Neither Backers nor Backee are responsible for any taxes other than those they themselves may incur as a result.

9) Backee agrees not to be staked by anyone else in any live poker tournaments during the duration of the stake.

10) Backee is not obligated to play all of the tournaments on the list, although he is obligated to play any live poker tournament he enters while the Contract is in effect under its terms.

11) Backers have the exclusive right to veto, modify or accept any attempt of Backee to trade a percentage of his profits with any other player in any given tournament(s). If a trade is accepted by the Backers, Backee and the player must exercise their agreement in writing.

12) If a tournament does not take place for any reason or if Backee fails to enter any given tournament, Backee owes Backers a refund of that tournament's buy-in.

13) Backee is alloted an $8k maximum $ spent on buy-ins (including both rebuys and add-ons) for each $1k rebuy tournament. Any $ not spent on rebuys must be refunded to backers.

14) Money to enter any given event must be recieved by Backee by the morning of that event, unless all parties involved agree to arrange for Backee to receive it at a later time.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the Parties hereto have executed this Contract as of the date first written above.

Date:
Name: _____________________________
"Backer"

Date:
Name: _____________________________
“Backer”

Date:
Name: _____________________________
“Backee”

[insert schedule here, on a new page - title "Attachment A"]

Last edited by Rainbow Warrior; 10-28-2011 at 08:57 PM.
12-02-2008 , 09:00 PM
Already registered and selling 1/2 my action in UB Sun 200k for a cool hundo 50/50 split. If I donk my way to final table I probably wont deal unless you really want too. PM
12-02-2008 , 09:36 PM
I am looking for a small stake. Willing to talk strategy on AIM or via PM to prove knowledge. I've been around 2+2 forums and archived posts for a while, but hadn't registered to start posting until recently. Also, we can go over the terms of any potential deal via AIM. FWIW, I would prefer to play NLHE ring games (high volume) or 180 man SNGs. Any small stake is appreciated, please contact me if you would like to discuss.

Thanks
12-02-2008 , 09:39 PM
Hello there, it has been a while since i posted here.

For anyone who doesn't know me , My name Is Joshua Murphy

I'm a newer poker player, i've played a lil bit these last few days in the 3.25 45 man turbos on stars

ive pretty much broke even, i had a friend loan me some money and i sent it back when i got it back, i have no way to deposit, seeing as how my american credit card doesnt work on pokerstars.

Anyways on to what im asking for, basically im asking for 6-7 stakes of the 3.25 45 man turbos, the payout for you if u stake me will be 70/30 , i've got the whole night to pay, and will more then likely be able to pay back tonight, my pstars name is DonkMan319 if u want to look me up at all, i dont kno what else to put here since this is my first time asking, but please respond pm me or post here, i thank you whoever wants to stake me and help me grow as a poker player.
12-02-2008 , 10:11 PM
I am looking for a stake for the Midnight Madness! tournament tonight on FTP.

The tournament has a guaranteed prize pool of $15,000, and starts in a little under 3 hours. PM me if you would like us both to make good money off of this tournament.

I would need $11 to play it, and would offer 60/40 plus Stakeback.

I am a very experienced live tournament player that is new to the online poker world. I am confident that I can go very deep in this, and would love to prove it to you.

FTP Screen Name: efdrummer89
12-02-2008 , 11:17 PM
I'm looking for a stake for 200nl on preferably ftp for 50/50, but would listen to other propositions. (will not play on stars)

I won't pretend to be something I'm not to get the stake. I'm a pretty TAG player, maybe some would say nit, but that's what has worked the best for me. My Non-SD winnings suffer, and although I believe that would help my win-rate I still haven't found the right style to win more w/o SD without it being counter productive to my game.

I won't be a huge volume player. 25k hands a month would be about right for me. From my point of view I'm a low variance investment for you. I'd like to be staked for 1 month, then we re evaluate from there. PM me if you have any questions.



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Thanks
12-03-2008 , 12:29 AM
I am looking to be staked for the 1.15 DoN's on stars. I would be interested in either a 2 week stake, or a pre-determined number of tournaments. I plan on putting in a very high volume of these and would split profits 50/50 after the principle is repaid in full.
12-03-2008 , 07:14 PM
Seeking stake for the $200+$15 O8 PL Dec 6th at 14:45

Im a strong O8 player, varying between NL/PL100 cash and Tournaments

Always done good in most O8 MTT's, my OPR id is ErNci on stars; prizes of $3.8k in last 120 days, profit of 2.8k. (I think - dont really use that site ) - but never entered something this deep, although im sure ill do fine, if not better against these players (many are NLHE players wasting some T$ I hear).


Drop me an IM with any offers, much appreciated, really want to get staked for a shot at this. I can provide my home-telephone, address and any ID you wish to legitize (But no, im not scanning in an image of my credit card :P )
12-03-2008 , 09:28 PM
I am looking for someone to partner in a stake for heads up Pot Limit Omaha sit and gos. Poker Stars or Full Tilt Poker is preferred sites.

I have an awesome track record on Absolute Poker on Omaha sit and gos and recently I was barred from Absolute for being a Kentucky resident.

I am willing to discuss anything that is needed to be discussed over telephone, AOLIM, Yahoo, etc. I am looking to make a profit for myself and my backer.

I am looking for a stake in sit and gos from $5.00 up to $20.00 and I am willing to start at low limit to prove myself and work my way up for my backer to gain confidence. Due to an automobile accident I removed my money because I had to have it for Dr. bills. I have all the time in the world to play this grind and I am looking for someone who is interested in doing business with a person who is serious about playing. I have played many cash games in PLO but I found that the sit and go grind is very profitable with the least amount of stress.

If you want to discuss more and talk about a favorable business venture for both of us then private message me via 2+2 and I will contact you with a method outside of 2+2 to talk and discuss this.
12-04-2008 , 09:45 AM
Looking for a stake for mtt's. If interested, PM me and we could discuss.
http://officialpokerrankings.com/pok...20EB9.html?t=2
12-04-2008 , 12:48 PM
Hello, I'm currently a Supernova on Pokerstars. My screen name is "PEPIV" I'm up roughly 25k this year playing SNG's and MTT's on pokerstars. Due to some personal issues, that i'm willing to discuss, i'm looking for a backer. I can give my phone # etc... I've played over 13k sng's, i'm looking to play a lot. I will play strictly whatever sng is agreed upon. I'm not a member of sharkscope, so i don't know which sng i'm most profitable at.

Thanks,

PEPIV
12-04-2008 , 05:29 PM
Looking for NL25 FR players to stake. I am a winning MSNL FR/MTT player and can potentially provide coaching. Potential to move up limits after showing me that you are a winner. References a MUST. Graphs a MUST. Knowledge of PT, PAHUD a MUST. Terms will start at 50/50 + stakeback/make up with potential to improve in backee's favor with proven results.

Terms of backing are negotiable with the right candidates but approximates include starting at 25NL and playing a minimum of 100k hands at a level before moving up.

Don't waste my time. If you are a good candidate, I can help you move up in stakes, guaranteed. I am a long term winner on pokerstars/full tilt (mman_status on both sites).

Please PM me with the following:

Handle (on both Stars and Full Tilt)
Brief poker/life history
Age
Profession
PT Graphs
REFERENCES
Why should I select you?

Only coherent, organized applications will be considered. Only looking for cash game players at this time. Thank you.
12-05-2008 , 12:56 AM
Looking for a stake in .10/.25 or .25/.50 PL Omaha

I am a successful NL and PL Omaha player in live action, am relatively new to online poker.

I would be willing to negotiate a percentage chop if that is more appealing to any backers...40/60 for you or other if you wish.

PM me with offers
12-05-2008 , 12:56 AM
Looking to Stake some Sng players $12-$16 Can move up levels if profit is huge.

Include the following in your application via PM:


1. Full name, age, where you live

2. Occupation

3. Have you ever been staked? If so, by whom?

4. Have you ever been coached? If so, by whom?

5. Why do you need or want staking at this time?

6. List any and all references, and how I can contact them.

7. screen shot of your Sharkscope .
12-06-2008 , 02:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeus
I am looking to be staked for the 1.15 DoN's on stars. I would be interested in either a 2 week stake, or a pre-determined number of tournaments. I plan on putting in a very high volume of these and would split profits 50/50 after the principle is repaid in full.
I keep seeing this request and it blows my mind...

Think about this, guy...Someone stakes you for 30 of these...and you win all 30...which would never happen...you repay 34.50, give 15 away as your stakers share of profit, and this leaves you with a whopping $10.50 for 2 week's worth of work. And that's if you won them all.

Now do you understand why nobody is jumping on your offer?

peace,
Jason
12-06-2008 , 07:28 PM
I'm looking for a stake for 200nl on preferably ftp for 50/50, but would listen to other propositions. (will not play on stars)

I won't pretend to be something I'm not to get the stake. I'm a pretty TAG player, maybe some would say nit, but that's what has worked the best for me. My Non-SD winnings suffer, and although I believe that would help my win-rate I still haven't found the right style to win more w/o SD without it being counter productive to my game.

I won't be a huge volume player. 25k hands a month would be about right for me. From my point of view I'm a low variance investment for you. I'd like to be staked for 1 month, then we re evaluate from there. PM me if you have any questions.





Thanks

12-07-2008 , 01:44 AM
Yes this is only my first post but im looking to get staked to play the $4.40 180 mans on stars, the only reason i am looking for a stake is because at this time I dont have enough of a roll to be properly rolled to play these im looking to star out with like 25 or 50 buy-ins see where the numbers are at then move from there if your comfortable. Thanks
12-07-2008 , 08:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HelloDoUHaveGEESE?
I am looking for someone to partner in a stake for heads up Pot Limit Omaha sit and gos. Poker Stars or Full Tilt Poker is preferred sites.

[snip]

It has been pointed out to me that this poster has been banned numerous times previously. Never for scamming AFAIK, so it may not reflect on his suitability for staking, but I wouldn't have felt right about not posting something. I'll just say that a couple of the bans were for some serious forum tilt, and leave it at that.
12-07-2008 , 04:15 PM
Hello,

I'm interested in being staked. I've been around these forums for a while now but apparently not 6 months =). Anyways, I'm a winning online poker player with a 5ptBB/100 win rate at 25NL full ring games.

The stakes would be up to you, and im comfy playing anything > 25NL. This graph is from my experience at 25NL.



However, there is a much more interesting opportunity for you backers. I live in florida, where this year NL holdem was finally legalized. The game in question is 100NL with 1/2$ blinds. I've been to the cardroom here in tallahassee, and they play so horrible. Last time i went i picked up KKs, open to 15$, have another guy come over the top to 45$, a cold caller calls 45$, i push for 150$ total and they both call. Villians Flip ATo, AJs.......KKs hold and win 350$.

This is literally standard play at this cardroom. I am not exagerating, I've been there many times and see them play this way always. I dont understand how they have any money left.

This game^^ above is a gold mine. Its literally the juiciest game ive ever seen with the biggest fish in the world. Its worth it to consider this game as an option too.

(And just in case you want to see my screenname/touney results)



Smokey

Last edited by Smokey-McGreen; 12-07-2008 at 04:28 PM.
12-09-2008 , 03:56 AM
Offering to stake low/middle stakes MTT players and also SNG grinders. New to 2+2 (obv w/ this being my first post) however i've been a regular in the #hsmtt irc forum for nearly 2 years. I'm looking to get deals started for Jan 09 and beyond. PM me if interested and include your poker screen names and any other relevant info.

Last edited by xelnet; 12-09-2008 at 04:05 AM.
12-09-2008 , 04:04 AM
Also x-posted it in this thread
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...rs-ftp-360973/

Hi everyone,

I have been playing poker(primarily NLHE cash games and occasionally Sit &Gos',MTT's) for approx. 3 years.Last year i diverted my attention to Razz cash games and have been fairly successfull.I had a break away from poker(life commitments,job) and have come back to playing razz for about 3 weeks or so,where i have managed to run an initial stake of 110 upto 1100 dollars before cashing it out for recent expenditures..and the last week or so i ran up my FPP's to 550 dollars before cashing out some,but managed to lose the rest.

I can confidently say that I am feeling very good about my razz game now, and also have a good idea about player tendencies(played with a regular crowd on stars).But unfortunately ,I cannot reload (pact with fiancee) and cannot put use my acquired skills ,in the free time i currently have away from work,until I get staked.

I can guarentee that I am very honest,open in my dealings,(check the P2P transfer thread in Internet Gambling where i have many successful trades/swaps..),play within my bankroll and I can provide interested parties references both within 2p2 as well as well known MTT players I know outside of 2p2(having met them in real life).

I am currently looking for a stake of 250-300 dollars for 0.5-1,1-2 and 2-4 limit razz cash games.Rest of the details including % can be thrashed out once I get interest going for the staking.

Thanks for your time,
Broke_Joke

This is some stats I have from playing MTT's on FTP ,this is the only stats i have currently as I played the razz games entirely on my Desktop which doesnt have PT (have it installed on my laptop),but i can get HH's from Stars if needed


12-09-2008 , 12:37 PM
look....ive never my coached but ive been playing for a number of years and studying in las vegas casinos.... stake me $2 to Alden11 on pokerstars...and i will prove to you that i am reliable...I am working on getting started and if you were able to give me a bost that would be awsome... the plan im proposeing to you is that you stake me $2 today..and ill have 8 for you by tonight... this hopefully will show that i me reliable and so we can work togeather with larger sums as time progresses. Thanks

http://www.officialpokerrankings.com...27341.html?t=2
12-09-2008 , 11:11 PM
I'm Scott "Kickyourace" Neuman from New Jersey. I'm the original Ebay Golden Palace sponsored player. I'm planning on heading down for the 4 day Deep Stack event at the Borgata on Sunday. Cost is $320.00. I'm playing either way. If someone wants a piece, I'm breaking it up into three pieces of $100 each at 17% each of my total after taxes if I have to pay taxes. (W2G form) If anyone wants a piece, email me at sneuman@kickyourace.com. First should be around $80K. We start with 25K in chips, 45 minute rounds. Just my type of game. While I didn't cash in the my last two 10K events, I did have deep finishes of 70th out of 700 and 27th out of 160. Both entries were from Satellites at the Borgata and Taj.
Different payment methods available. I'll also consider taking pieces of anyone else playing at this event. edited. I'm strictly a tournament player. I don't play cash games. Most recent finishes in online tournaments were Stars Nightly 70K and 80K guarantees with a 5th place, 11th, place and 20th place finishes in the last 45 days. http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/kickyourace

Last edited by *TT*; 12-10-2008 at 04:24 AM. Reason: removed website
12-10-2008 , 07:27 AM
Hi, im looking for a steak for MTTs (id do cash games but i feel my strong point is MTTs unless some1 wanted to coach me too)

ive only been a micro steak mtt grinder. but ive taken a few shots at sunday warmup/million ive cashed a few times biggest being only $825.

12-10-2008 , 08:47 PM
Hey im looking for a stake in the Pokerstars 6.50s I've had a good roi over a decent sample size. I had to take out most of my roll at the start of school and have had a hard time recovering ever since.
Heres my Graph

Ive also gone deep in the Sunday Warmup for $1650ish
PM me to discuss details if intrested.

      
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