if everyone only had one thread for all their stakes then trying to find what is actually on offer becomes harder if you have to go to the final page of each thread and then go back a few more pages past all the confirmation posts to find what you were looking for

staking sub divisions sounds like a good idea though

there are reasons **closed** threads generally are not locked and I do not foresee that changing.

I would go one step further and say that this ability to change title should come with the ability to edit the first message of your thread.

First message would then present background, references etc along with what's going on now. Heading is attracting backers into looking. And each share offer would be one message in the thread (starting discussion and offers) that you could link in the first message. Like:
I don't know what exactly is 2+2 policy about editing messages (just saw it was not possible) and I am not sure this could even be implemented (editing first message but not the rest in this subforum). I'm just a noob in this staking forum but enjoy reading more about staking and thought I could give my thought about it.

Some initial thoughts, having just gone through this thread for the first time:

One thread per person - interesting idea, but implementation would be a PITA. As a mod, there would be no easy way to check this. We'd just be going by memory and/or searching a person's "Threads Started".

Editing thread titles - We'd want to limit to that and ONLY that. I think allowing editing of the OP itself could lead to potential trouble in that people could abuse it by removing or editing important information in the case of scams. And I don't think there'd be any way to allow posters to edit only their OP, let alone just the title.

As ape alluded to, we change the title of threads to **CLOSED** rather than actually locking them for a reason. If there is a problem in the future, we want the thread open for people to post in. If a **CLOSED** thread gets bumped needlessly, we will sometimes delete the bumping post, which drops the thread back down, or if it happens frequently to a particular thread, we will sometimes actually lock it and let people PM us if they have a legitimate reason to have it unlocked.

Some ideas I liked and/or could work with:

Splitting the forum up. While we don't want to get too carried away and make it difficult for people to find things, this is doable if it makes sense.

Coming up with some guidelines about how many threads someone can have going. Yes, this still needs to be manually enforced just like the 1 thread/person rule would, but it would be happening a lot less frequently.

Okay, thanks for explaining that. Makes sense.

Also, it looks like **closed** doesn't really mean the thread is closed, only that the original offer is usually closed.

all the reasons given in op make perfect sense. i see only upside and no downside

is there a possibility that a subforum for selling shares/looking for stakes or offering stakes will be set up, or section it somehow where it is not so cluttered with selling pieces threads in the staking subforum in the future?

really need to look into this.

We had a conversation about this in the Staking forum that kind of died off. I'm going to copy these last few threads over there and hopefully revive it. I know Zima was also asking about a thread for selling staking makeup; that would also be a good thing to discuss there as well.

I like this.

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not sure what else there is to say.

I think there should be a different subforum for buying/selling pieces.

I also would like to get a discussion going about selling make-up to other backers.

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Not that my opinion really matters much as I don't post much but I do agree with pretty much everything said in this thread. It does feel like it gets bogged down in here at times.

I'm up for some split that divides up traffic, whether it's moving bap stuff to a sub-forum of it's own or making "buying" and "selling" whatever separate.

After a good bit of thought I'm pretty much against sale of makeup being allowed but would be willing to listen/discuss it.

It's not really like it's my decision on any of it either, but I wanted people to know I've given it thought.

I am not sure why selling MU would be a problem. It can have its own subforum so as not to bog down anything.

If you are worried about people's names being public, there could be a rule like you cant post the persons actual screename, just his overall stats at whatever SNG type you are staking him at, and past dealings with him, and for other backers to contact you via PM to discuss a possible sale er something.

Selling pieces really needs to have its own subforum.

actually that's the opposite of how I feel we'd have to go- it would probably have to be complete disclosure at least to the mods, which turns it into a major hassle for us for what appears to be a rather narrow group of people it would benefit.

1) it would probably have to be 2+2er makeup only. anything else is completely unenforceable/traceable by the mods.
2) the backers would likely have to show proof of horse consent (easy enough given the first condition i guess) whether that's part of the original contract, or the horse acknowledging in thread/pm/whatever.
3) now the fun part- enforcing it when it goes all wrong, or determining exactly what constitutes it going wrong.

Again I'm willing to hear more input on it. But I've given this a a good amount of thought from the mod perspective.

Can i just post a thread trying to sell MU in regular marketplace?

(i am not sure how to answer all the points you brought up right now, will get back to them later)

Not saying I'm in favour of allowing MU sales, but I think the way to deal with 1) and 2) would be that the horse has to post in the thread.

i think there should definitely be a subforum for selling pieces.

Agreed and what I was getting at. It can't be a free for all and would have to be transparent.

I'm in the camp that makeup isn't transferable unless it's agreed to by the horse or the right to do it is explicitly included in any original agreement.

Since we haven't really had much discussion outside of this thread on any of it, and it opens up the wormhole, I'll answer Zima's question by saying "no for now".

ok.

lets drop the whole MU selling thing for another time.


Can we pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee get another sub forum for selling/buying pieces?

Looks like we'll most likely be moving ahead with a forum split shortly, with a separate sub for selling pieces.

Now, about selling makeup, it looks like it's here already:

Selling horse/splitting action

ape and I have been talking about this, and one of our big concerns is the amount of $ we're talking about here. As can be seen in the thread linked above, the amount could be very substantial, which concerns us. What if two people decide that it's worth throwing away their 2+2 reps for 5 figures?

If we do go ahead and allow these, and we're not saying we will, I think we're agreed on a few requirements (and there could be more):

Both the staker (seller) and the horse must be in agreement on the sale.
The horse must be Marketplace Approved and post in the thread.
The seller must spell out what happens if the deal goes south in any way. Are they refunding, is it on the buyer, etc.

Input is appreciated.

Must read for anyone trying to understand Makeup

Will you be able to share those potential requirements in order to input more efficiently?


Also as someone who buys pieces a fair amount I agree with Sub-Forums.