Lol I hate you even more for saying this. Someone calls you dumb (i agree) for the way you handled the situation, so you make this brag about yourself, but try not to sound cocky. lololololol

PSU ****ed up. He'll fix it if you let him. If you continue to be an unrealistic ******* he's not going to do it as quickly as he would if you were understanding and encouraging.

If you had a boss who you hated because he didn't respect you and treated you like ****, would you go out of your way to bust your ass for him? No.

If you had someone who you respected, and you let them down, and you feel like **** about it, but even though they were disappointed with you, they worked it out with you to set a new way to pay the debt, would you go out of your way to get the money back asap? Yes.

PSU isn't a ****, he'll get the money back. Get over yourself.

EDIT: Sorry to derail this thread more than it already has. I'm not even sure what the main point of this thread is.

See above: I left some points out.

to get the word out to the community to not trust PSU. he had been asking a few backers for a stake, so its good tt_fold did post about this.

The part in bold is completely incorrect. The scam occurred once he decided to use TT_Fold's funds for anything outside of his 12/180 stake, in addition to choosing to lie about his "mistake" instead of being 100% truthful from the beginning of those AIM conversations.

Now that he's still in contact and attempting to repair his reputation does not factor into whether he scammed TT_Fold or not. His actions from here just may or may not repair some of his reputation within the community. We'll see what happens.

I would give PSU alot more credibility if he immediately contacted TT and told him of his mistake at the beginning of the AIM logs, instead of trying to cover it up and stall until he had no choice but to tell the truth. This just smells like someone owning up as a last resort.

Pretty unreal that ppl are sticking up for the person that scammed the money from tt_fold just because psu was a nice guy while scamming and tt_fold was a jerk about getting HIS OWN MONEY back. Also him making this thread was simply to help warn the community about a potential scammer looking for a stake from others, he risked getting his money back by making it so I really don't get the flaming.

wow TT you handled it well imo, I would have been pretty pissed if someone took my money and had a freeroll w/%45 of their action in scoop and then to insult your intelligence with the stupid excuses. Yeah i'd be in prison for sure.

name sounded like a scammer

Over 1k? After dude shipped money and promised more. Surprised you ain't in prison yet with that logic. Nice post though tuff guy.

Edits made. You're correct.

Intent has no bearing; it's the result that is to be criticized.


I'm just pointing out what is.

Wow this is still going? Guys, he 100% intentionally scammed TT_fold, this can't possibly be up for debate. This wasn't a mistake by PSUStudent, it was theft. I 100% believe had PSUStudent made money or broke even in the SCOOPs/mFTOPS he would have reimbursed the Kosh Bux in his account, but that doesn't make it any less wrong.

+1

Mistake led to scam. Could have been just a mistake if PSU took the appropriate actions I believe, which he obv did not.

pssst i wasn't serious about being in prison, tuff guy.

I just started a backing deal for 180's again. Guy told me to play the 12's. if I want but no way im playing the 12's with only 400BR. Could lose that in a day easy with those things..

Zima's point is if your backer can reload you frequently, there really is no need to send a full bankroll for the games you are being backed for. He will simply replenish quickly when you have depleted what he's given you to start.

thats correct Aznpower.


some of the longer term guys who have earned trust get to keep a lot more in account.


if i dont know you/dont trust you, you will be getting about 1-2 sessions worth of buy ins to start a stake. if you lose it all in that session, than you can ask for a reload and i would send it right away.


you are just misunderstanding the working bankroll/overall bankroll/whats in account. 400 isnt their whole bankroll by any means. anyone I stake basically has an unlimited bankroll for their limits (to a certain point). they just dont get to keep it in their accounts for obv reasons.

we're all degens

To be fair the other guy said "doubt TT_Fold is rich", which is why he pointed him to his OPR.

I seriously don't understand how someone 25 with some intellect could a) try something this dumb or b) not have 900 bucks or however much it was to pay this out. I seriously thought he must of been like 17 when I first read it. For those of you saying it ain't that bad, he deliberately lied and withheld the truth, therefore TT is allowed to be as much as a **** (c) as he likes.

This.

I don't think I'd want to do trade with either party after reading this.

I'm sure Ronald "TT_Fold" Kosh is very upset about this turn of events.

Sorry nutshot2, I didn't realise you were both such ballers. If being a baller goes hand in hand with being a mug, I'll leave that job to you.

Mistakes make people do crazy stuff.

I've been in a similiar situation once. It didn't evolve a whole lot of money either. It was in the beginning of my poker carreer. But I was accused of cheating in poker, when all I did was lie about a hand. We were playing 5/10 DKK (which is about $1/2). The dealer made a mistake by clearing my hand before the hand had finished. I bluffed at the pot, and villain made a herocall with A high. I had AQ and he called me off with AK, and should have won the pot. When I looked down at my cards, they weren't there. Being frustrated that villain made (at that point) such a sick call down, I decided to lie about my hand. So I said I had something different then I really had, and offered villain to split the pot with me. The pot was (if I remember correctly) 1200DKK which is about $240. Later that night I admitted that I had AQ, and was outkicked, and shipped the my part of the pot over to villain. I said sorry that I had lied, and tried to explain that I was frustrated and blabla (I'm not saying that I did the right thing!!!). The next evening we descided to play another game of poker, same people, same place, and a awkward situation arose. Villain (not the same one) lost her cards on the board, and obviously flipped one of her cards over. Everybody at the table saw the card, but I didn't (and I really didn't). I had flopped a set, and villain turned two pairs. There was a straight possibility on the board, and I got raised on the river, but I pushed all in, and villain called with her 2 pairs. When I turned over my card showing MIDDLE SET nobody believed me that I hadn't seen villain's cards because I would never raise MIDDLE set with a straight possibility out there. And then the story started that I could not be trust, I was a cheater, and I never was asked to play poker there, and the word spread (I live in a country with 45.000 ppl). I was apperently able to do some magic with cards now, I hid cards under the table, under the chair, in my jackets and stuff and the stories just became so weird and sick really.

WELL. I don't know if this story is relevant or not, but I'm just saying that people make mistake when they're frustrated and don't know what to do. I AM BY NO MEANS STANDING UP FOR WHAT PSUSTUDENT DID AND THE FACE THE HE LIED REALLY A SHAME!!!!, but I am saying that people do get in to awkward spots, and when you feel the pressure of the situation you do things that you would never imagine yourself doing. I don't think TT was right to act the way he did, PSUSTUDENT atleast tried to find a solution to the problem and pay him back. it's really a situation of "The one who is without sin, throw the first rock" :-)

good stuff TT

Pretty impressed with how TT_fold handled himself tbh.

I thought he was pretty cool,calculated and setting out simple instructions for the guy to follow at the beginning,obviously going to get frustrated and pissed when the guy is obviously stalling.