hey guys, whats the min hands u need to prove u were a winner at plo?

i could be way off but i'd say minimum 50k and even that's a really small sample. 100k seems more reasonable

Hello these are my stats on shark scope I play 18 man $1.75's, I have needed to pull out money to help with bills and what not and have always kept my buy in's at 100 when I do withdrawal.

I am interested in being staked but do not really know where to start I've read the OP and I do understand that my lack of poker contacts and poker posts would hurt me in receiving a stake.

I play 8 tables at a time and never chat so I don't really know anyone from the sites I play on, and I've really just came here to learn and never have felt that I knew enough to offer a lot of help to players asking questions.

So my question is with these stats where should I go from here in looking for a stake ? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

A side note is that I have done over 1000 eBay transactions and just as many though PayPal I don't know if that would have any bearing on being staked but I guess one could look at it as a testimonial to my honesty and trustworthiness.

If you aren't currently marketplace approved you could ask to be so you could post your own thread in the staking section. The process is covered in the sticky thread but essentially you go to your control panel and request marketplace approval in the join groups section (I think)

Otherwise you may apply to any stakers offering a mix of stakes that include your game of choice. There should be several at any given time in staking that cover your game.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply, I will do so on my request to be approved.

Hi, i cant write on the staking forums, what can i do??

advice: if someone posts links of you being shady, stealing, rolling, etc dont try to act like whatever small amount of money it was for isnt a big deal

I remember a sample staking contract being posted a while ago, anyone got a link handy?

Is there anyway to post threads sooner than the time period???? hard to find stakee's without having your own thread??? anyway possible? thanks for help

dooooooonk- I deleted the post because it belongs in the specific members <6 months thread.

Feel free to repost it there- or if you don't have it saved- make a post in that thread and I'll edit it into your post there.


aligator- not really, no. we've held stringently to the requirements. you are within 6 weeks or so. hang in there.

jdnec- you have to request permission to start thread in the marketplace. go to your control panel- join groups (I think)- and request to be approved for the marketplace. The requirements are being a member for 6 months or longer and currently in good standing.

Hey everybody I'm new to 2+2 and I'm hoping to find somebody to help me out!

I'm down on my luck and I have no extra money over my bills but I really want to make some profit with poker. I need a great person to stake me. I have the skills and the knowledge and I'm very willing to be coached for even better results.
My name is Eric, and like us all I have a sob story , and definitely if anything willing to talk over some PMs about a possible set up. I believe I could be a very profitable man for you.

PM if interested

I have a quick staking question. Say you are staking a person at hu for 50k hands. But you dont want to wait the 50k hands to be making a sharing of profits. Is it a bad thing for the staker to allow the stakee to split the profit and essentially restart at some point, say every 5k hands or something? If so why is it bad for the staker?

Thanks

I believe that's the standard way to run the stake, assuming that you're handling make up properly.

Question:
I have a buddy who is staked and no where in his agreement with his backer did it say rakeback would be applied to makeup. Is this usually a standard thing or does it vary from stake to stake?
Thanks

It's common, though standard may be pushing it. It really should have been arranged in the beginning.

I'm assuming from the way you put it the backer is asking for the rakeback to be applied to the makeup amount. It's not an unreasonable request, but I would think that unless it was in the original agreement the horse shouldn't be forced to comply.

Tbh I've never had a conversation regarding a deal in which neither myself or the potential stakee hasn't brought the subject up. It's a pretty big leak to not discuss it imo, even if it just avoids an uncomfortable conversation later.

not in the deal unless talked about.


every deal i do i mention it.

There was no mention of RB in the deal at all? Really surprising.

Guys, i have a question, how orthodox would a deal like this be?

Im staked to play 100NL Live by a staker who has no BR or knowledge about poker, quite a loser at the game he attend. Staker is a friend of friend's, approached me after hearing im a good player from my friend (hey dont get me wrong, i just play the 2+2 style). I agreed to play since it would be fun to try, not that i need the money or anything since im usually frugal. Contract was verbal, 50/50, seems like i did not have to pay any makeup or anything, but after reading through the stakes in 2+2, makeup seems to be the norm.

So, first session i was up 5 buyins, second session i dropped 1.5 buyins. Staker apologetically told me sorry that he dont have money to pay me while we leave the second session, im like its ok (wasnt expecting any since we are down that session). Now im thinking i should talk to staker about it, because if i have to pay any makeup then i would rather just grind online.

Any suggestions? Im happy to be staked (like a job hehe) but i just dont want to get involved with paying back losses. And would it be normal to be staked without the makeup part?

What do you mean by this, did you buy in with your own funds?

Also Makeup isn't a personal debt. You don't have to pay that from your own pocket, you're just meant to grind it back within the terms of the stake.

Also if you never make a staking agreement with someone who is clueless about both poker and staking, you're typically doing it right.

Thanks for the reply, staker is currently buying in with his own funds, i literally go to the game with only the cab fare lol. oh i get it now, so lets say IF i want to be a nice guy, i can offer 30/70 staker's favour next session so at least he wont feel so down lol.

Well, i think you are right about the staking agreement, he cant help my game in any way. Staker usually sleeps on the couch while i play lol...

I'm still lost, what did he mean he had no money to pay you at the end of the session?

Oh wait, did u settle after the first session?


Um, no. It's 100% in his favour until you're in profit, then it's 50/50. If you settled after the first session, you are now 1.5 BI's in makeup.

It's not just about the guy improving your game. Pretty bad disputes result from either or both of the parties not understand what they're getting into. Mainly over concepts like makeup, variance and other obligations.

Take a look through this thread, mostly disputes result from ppl not ironing out details in the beginning. If the staker and the horse don't know what to expect, the chances of things becoming a ****fight have to increase massively.

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Hey bren, sorry if i did not make it clear, i wasnt sure what he was apologizing for at the end of session, i just said it was ok, dry cards, wasnt expecting like some hourly pay anyway. I was given half of the profits (total being 4 buyins) previously. I think i will just discuss it over with him, i wouldnt want to be surprised with a "pay me back" fuss lol

Yeah probably for the best, GL.

Hi, I am new to 2+2, although not to poker or poker forums. A couple of questions:

1) I have noticed there is a seperate thread for members of less than 6 months to post staking requests, but does this apply when offereing stakes? I will be looking to start staking within the next few months to make some use of my bankroll as I will be too busy with studying/work etc to play as much as I would like myself.

2) If say you had a couple, or more, horses staked to play only HUSNGs around the same level, would you have a policy of them avoiding playing each other, just leaving it be or just avoid the situation of staking more than one player for a certain type of game?

Many thanks.

1) You have to have Marketplace approval to start threads of any kind, which I believe requires at least 6 months membership.

2) Imo, it's just burning money, your money. I'd do something that keeps them from playing each other.