Hello 2+2,

My name is Robert Rook III.

I am at a serious loss-stalemate with my current backer/investor/partner/friend. He wants to work so hard for me; & I for him. Him being in finance/funds/banking, there isn't a clear understanding of poker... We are on a "trial separation" of sorts. He is doing his thing to gather funds, & I am doing mine. The initial plan was to move me to Mexico; & have me play for him & clients full time. It's been eight months; & we have failed each other...

Like most American players, I've been down & out, depressed, & devastated, since "BF". Essentially, I was feeling rather "hopeless" & "void", as I was in the middle of writing a poker book for online practices. Losing a majority of potential buyers & an interested audience. There is no market for that really; & even if I finished, I haven't established myself a name of "value" to market.

This post: They all turn out long & wordy... Normally get a lot of heat, flak, criticism, laughs, or purely ignored. It's fine. I understand. I've been offering sales/deals/numbers on other sites & have obscene interest until investors find out it is poker. Thought maybe I should create my own listing here & let the right partner find me. I sit with a duffel & backpack packed with four computer monitors waiting to be put to use. The confidence, stride, results, will come quickly when I find myself; & passion once more.

Basically I am open to terms & all or any offered conditions. I am a very hard worker with honesty, integrity, flexibility, dedication, & loyalty, on my side.

Done all that I can to find a bank, loan, & even tried my family, but there is no interest in assistance getting me down south playing. I had to spend all my life savings on medical bills & living expenses to stay current. I don't have the means to get there. I am hoping for someone or a group of individuals who stake, open to the possibility of relocation & start up. We can use/do that in form of make-up & you will be paid first weekly/monthly for that investment. If no interest here, I plan on moving to San Diego & continuing my reach/search for backers/investors elsewhere. (Maybe by then, my current one will have established a better plan?)

I am looking for a mid-term staking arrangement, due to the fact I hope to work with my current backer/friend again as he has resources. Or maybe, I can buy myself out of a contract at a later date & you'd have option of whatever "action" you saw fit?

I'm just an isolated & semi-lonesome fella sitting here in the cold & grey, wanting to get my career established & return to full time online poker. I need to have that hope back in my days.

Would be open to any stake; playing sngs or mtt. I am not a cash player.

Granted this is not the "best" sell or start, but if you heard the full story or took the time to know me. You could never dream of having a better horse. (One without serious results thus far.) I mean Kevin Thurman turned $500 into $900k in one year. Could I do that, probably not, but with discipline, structure, & ethic, it could be a goal to aspire to.

Thank You for the time & consideration. See my other posts or profile for more info/details.

http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/rrrrocket_324
Live earnings are much more, unfortunately not tracked or ranked online.

No references this site, but I plan to be a name in "Professional" poker for years to come. Have no interest in screwing up; or tarnishing my beginnings in the poker community, though I've played 15+ years thus far.

If you pay for the move to mexico, I'll stake you in $1 45 mans

Am sincerely happy to give/share a laugh... It's more than I've seen/had in recent times.

I've been out of work a longtime; getting by & making monthly bills selling the rest of my stuff via craigslist. Should the remainder of it sell soon, I'll have about $2.3k; & that isn't much to get me started with start-up.

For those that didn't read my original thread posts (due to the laughter & absurdity of it all), though the terms/conditions/package is disbanded, it'll also give a fuller definition of who I am without writing me: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...ckage-1148823/

A very small sample of my MTT finishes. (Yes: I know most don't mean much since "Freerolls", but it shows the variance in large fields. I do have photos of these captures & some go back as far as 03'.) Most of 180's or smaller in the "play money", I'd finish in the top 2%-4% more often than not. My game/approach is developed & am always looking to improve methods, so I'd welcome coaching or sharing hh's if that was a prerequisite.

4 of 1242
6 of 2000
8 of 698
9 of 604
9 of 2495
12 of 2000
15 of 2700
22 of 1906
24 of 2700
34 of 1964
35 of 1935
39 of 2000
62 of 3600
69 of 3600
90 of 2700
90 of 3600
110 of 5000
288 of 6443
347 of 3959
589 of 6999
1602 of 12649

ok, this was fkn funny.

OP, the 15 year old selling the magic strength bracelets at the mall had a better sales pitch.

If your current backer has resources why arent you utilizing them?

Am only on here for a few minutes right now; but wanted to use a "place-holder" response to your post, so it wouldn't be deleted like the others...

Will come back with complete details & explanation; as I can later tonight.
I can not pitch what I can't sell, but as I share later, it should make sense. - Thank You.

I sincerely take the question at hand most seriously. Most definitely feel that it is important to properly represent my intentions & end goal; to the poker community. Will be as precise as I can without disrespecting my current situation. While my backer & I didn’t have a distinct NDA in place; it was understood that most exchanges were in confidence. Out of mutual consideration, I’ll share what I feel is adequate without crossing boundaries into grey areas.

Said individual is a “Professional Banker”. He has an established career with accounts. His primary focus is to find better returns for investors/clients in his portfolio-under his personal management. His division is “High Risk” assets. He was/is constantly on the search to branch out & bring better interest than 10%. With permissions of his clients, he sought out poker players to take chances on here in Washington State.

As per the paragraph in the attached link in Post #3, I was interviewed & selected out of quite a few interviews he held with players. Our needs were on par. I never heard or found out identities of those players, but was informed one had a six figure career, while the other had seven. I took it as a great compliment & a serious boost to my esteem that I was selected. As I had said, “I had won the lotto in a sense.”

He had a five figure number he needed me to return to him weekly. This was an absolute… The problem is/was in Washington State, that number is impossible, even by “pro” standards. At my very best play & constant “heaters” I couldn’t even clear a third of this number playing 80 hours weekly. I am not a cash game player. I have done well playing time to time, but I do not regularly play or enjoy it. He said to me what can you do? What type of games are offered? Any tourneys? After a few sit downs, I gave him an ideal process that could potentially reach half of the number… He was thrilled with that. Local tourneys had no equity & I could do better playing NL. He gave me $500 & told me to go to work… It was an up & down week, but at the end I was up more than a few hundred. Very pleased with the results, he gave me $1.5K more. Told me to play 3/5 & 5/10 NL.

We had a long sit-down/debate about what he was asking, what I knew/had seen playing those levels myself, but it wasn’t enough. He wanted bigger games. I had mentioned that there was $12/24 Limit, & 5-5 Spread PLO, but he wanted more gamble. I had inquired with a few other notable “pros” here in Washington State looking for High Stakes Private-Home Games. Games were had to be played, but they only welcomed “regulars”, as they wanted to keep money in the group. No matter what the bankroll, my action wasn’t welcomed. Long story short… He said risk the $2K. Play big… Gamble. I informed him all about bankroll management & it wasn’t necessarily the best process for growth. I lost it all in three “bad beats”. Standard hands, nothing worth explaining or sharing.

I returned to him for our next meet. He wasn’t upset or didn’t even care about the $2K. He just wanted my thoughts, notes, observations, & my general input of how successful we could be. I shared honestly; & he took the numbers back to his clients. They were not impressed about the numbers or odds. It was not a big enough return for the risk.

This was 7 months ago. Since then; the housing & lending equity market has improved & turned around. His personal clients like those numbers so much better. He has been doing all he can to sell them on poker, but the interest is just not there currently. A few do back other “pro” players, but they have serious cash career earnings. Bottom line they want stats, graphs, & roi, before placing their money on my relocation assistance.

So now we are current. My backer/his clients will invest once I am playing, & am situated. As I grow, they will have money behind me. Granted my actions here are based on what I was told, but I can’t help to want to keep those options open as they will provide travel for live future circuit events & travel. Honestly… I only want to keep a backer/be staked as long as I need, & resume on my own. However, I will never burn bridges or turn my back on those that have given me a chance, believed in me, or made strides to help me live my passion. I’m forever grateful for the experience I’ve been given thus far.

Now you are thinking -$2K… I AM NOT IN MAKEUP. However, being the person I am; & how I feel, my own personal $2K profit will be going into his pocket. Not to mention, I plan to pay him interest as a Thank You. You don’t need to “buy me”. My loyalty will be to you until I am right, just, fair & square, basically make good on repayment/loan & whatever profit/terms we discuss. My gratitude will always be there & I will do everything I can to recognize my beginnings.

Thanks for the Read.

(You may all still be laughing, but I am serious & will be/get there.) I’m not letting go!!!

Do you really expect us to believe a banker invested 2k in a poker player with a negative ROI on Full Tilt and 12 games on stars? You have to be joking. If this is real, I feel very bad for you. And this "Backer". Mexico is one of the cheapest places in the world to relocate to. I find it laughable that your "Long Term Backer" is willing to stake you for the next couple years in Mexico for decent size stakes. A minimum $50,000 investment to you. But he can't send you 5k to move to Mexico? Come on. It is illegal in many states for bankers to do the practice that you are suggesting your "Backer" is doing.

The 2nd thing that makes me think this is a troll is you posting your "Freeroll" stats. And those freeroll stats are pretty damn bad when you consider its a freeroll. Why are you evaluating yourself at over $40,000 and posting freeroll stats. Do you really think you are going to be the next big thing in poker, despite having no results at the game? You don't just win buddy, it takes years to grind up through the stakes.

This is my advice to you. Look for a job in IT, and forget poker ever existed. Because if you have had your Full Tilt account for atleast 5 years and you still can't grind out a positive ROI you will likely never win.

If you are serious about your intentions to become a pro and you really have this "Backer", then I think you should look into calling the cops. I have a feeling next week he will ask you once you get the money to fund your trip. To "Wire" him the money to his private account in the Cayman Islands to set up a bank account for you.

I would rather invest my $400 in a Nigerian Prince recovering his lost money in the USA, then invest in this "Stake".

Take this response for what you will, but this is likely the most serious response you are going to get!

look at OP's avatar.

*Please believe whatever you feel the need to. Everything disclosed is the truth.

*As far as stats: Noticed I highlighted my own shortcomings previously in text???: "*Please Note: My results are completely subjective. They do not depict my play; not in the very least. The -$1k seen on “Shark Scope” was actually intentional. (For study/research purpose. To see the graphs are a laugh as well… I recommend it.) Being a resident of Washington State; I never pursued a career in poker how I wanted, or I could."

*I was very very sick here in Washington State & could not leave my doctors to relocate to a state, where I could "legally" resume online poker.

*It is a "real" posting; & pity me you may... I am in a sh*t situation seeking to get out.

*I know the budget for Mexico. Been involved with http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/92...hread-1087089/ & I was even the individual who put together all the links seen via main page.

*Upon being offered the $2K I suggested Mexico then & there. He wanted to establish our relationship further. To this day I don't know if the funds were collected or from his personal pocket.

*The package referred to has been disbanded. Was initially set up based on what he said he could bring to the table. I never put a price on myself... Though it seemed a good value for one year of play. Maybe not? I regret the posting as I had no idea how dry this forum really was; that yes what I was seeking was completely ridiculous. The %'s sold/reserved were never collected & those individuals are aware of the situation I am in, & may or may not recommit at a later date.

*I don't personally know what he did/didn't do in the office. I'm sure nothing illegal or shady... I felt very good about our meets & talks. Yes he was a seller/talker; more importantly a VC looking to to take a hefty %, but I didn't mind as I was getting a grand deal to play. The $2K was placed in my hands & as I stated, lost over three separate pots.

*He had told me it was his long-term goal to establish a stable of players; & he even asked me if I'd want to recruit/scout or potentially be open to managing. At 30, I have many years of goals & accomplishments I want to complete/play for before I take on such a gig. It's not for me at this time... As I said we talked long & hard about the road ahead. I don't think many would favor his terms. Best I've ever received, so I jumped on it.

*I am not a "troll". I value my time & wouldn't be taking the time creating such posts if I was not genuinely seeking some form of stake. Being my situation is different, I can not see me qualifying or being consider for applying to sought stakes. Yes; it'd be trial & error. I can not prove or really sell myself here... One person may be sick of those that they can not count on, trust, or respect... I may just be that blessing they are hoping to find.

*Freeroll stats were shown as I had limited cash finishes due to local law. I paid my taxes on winnings & quit the .com sites. It also shows that in huge fields I am at the upper ends of potential min-cashes. I'm so much more than a break even player & have the discipline to sit 5-8 hours in a low stake tourney. (In this case free, just to play for final table; & hopeful win.) This was important to me.

*I am not looking to be a "big thing", I just want to play the game. I do not like many of the networks' user interfaces & want to play Stars as I never took the time then. With my duration & years of play, I do feel I'd have an edge in soft fields/markets. (Even more so with the best being in Vegas May-July.)

I worked 80-90 hour weeks in IT. Trust me... Does not meet the hype. I only made mention as to most in QA have a natural talent for numbers, solving, & determining various values & root causes for betterment of over-all result. I'd think that my tech background is something additional to consider. I will prove myself with time, it will be trial & error. I'm not under the illusion of different. Few have great minds for poker. Anyone can play the game...

Though I trust this individual, funds will be kept in an account which will sit in escrow until my limits & of that I may make deposits to him. All info will be regulated, taxed, & legal. As mentioned countless times, I'll be around for a very long while & look forward to playing with those who have their doubts.

*As per the avatar, it was the monkey making the news at the time... It looks like I am making my own news. Well played; & +1.

How is it u have to return him 5 figures a week, *note that you would be making half a mil a year at the lowest 5 fig number a week and laugh at a backing deal* and then was thrilled when you gave him a few hundred after the first week? That whole situation is preposterous and if its not a total level stop wasting your time even thinking about it.

You want to play and dont have the results to get backed?(you dont). Get a job, keep your expenses extremely low and use the money to either move, or to play live and go from there.

I am completely aware that I put an easy; & huge target on my back. I am open to questions... What point does it serve in/to continuously comment? I answered your question for you & the community.

*The $500 was a beginning test/working sample. He was happy to get any money back... Obviously; being in profit was a good indication of results I may offer. Being I didn't lose, degen, or disappear... How can there not be anything less than satisfaction.

*My time is exactly that... My time. I know how I use it, how I want to, & how I need to. I don't mind "wasting it" for a cause (being myself) I believe in.

*I may not have your results or the ones many require/seek, but I am & will be nothing less than a miracle horse when given the opportunity. As I said, I have feelers elsewhere. I'll never know if I don't try; & why not market a poker loan/investment to a poker audience?

Somewhere in all my postings; many have come to the conclusion that I lack common sense or don't know my attempts/direction. I know all the numbers, the angles, pov's returned to me. This is a gamble to you as you see the side of "Luck" or have prejudiced/skewed view... I can respect & appreciate that. I make calculated & informed decisions in life & at the tables.

It is certain I am leaving Washington State. There are many games here & juicy doesn't even begin to describe the "action" if you have a roll. The variance is so high that even the best of players may not always play/be peak or optimal. The live route here will not give me the results I need to be known or backed. In a sense, it is a crap-shoot... People here never run out of money. Ask; or look in the forums for known Washington players... There is potential & possibility here, but it is that of pure "luck" most of the time. ABC poker is no good; & your QQ or better will bust to 9-3 off again & again.

I've worked good jobs; & sh*t jobs... I'm not too proud to work. I've actively been seeking for over a year. This is one of those times/scenarios, I am literally stuck. I can work... Will work. Yet I know/feel I can work "smarter" in less time & easily double/triple what was my yearly salary.

From this point on: I will entertain serious intentions. If this isn't for you; move on. It's a positive that I have the attention/exposure, but I only want it in the best of light. Explaining anything is not gaining me ground or respect. I am a horse you would want hands down. I am flexible, easy, adaptable, & humbly understand my value... I want to return to what I do; & what I love. While I'm nowhere near the best, with confidence I can say I will out perform many currently staked. They've had their time & luck, hopefully I'll find more than the small taste taken thus far.

I dunno where I was in any way not being serious. As soon as a guy tells you that you need to give him back 5 figures a week you should laugh in his face. Its clear he has absolutely zero understanding of the situation, and that in turn means he probably just is a bad person to get into doing any type of business with.

I know one kid from Washington who plays the 5/5 PLO game and the 5/10 NL games there, and from him I KNOW the games are amazing. SO GOOD in fact, that he went down to FL to see if he wanted to move there and decided against it because the games at home were that much better. And playing in FL myself, I can tell you those games are LOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOL soft.

People here never run out of money. Ask; or look in the forums for known Washington players... There is potential & possibility here, but it is that of pure "luck" most of the time. ABC poker is no good; & your QQ or better will bust to 9-3 off again & again.

If that is your problem, you just are not cut out for this game.

On the contrary, explaining yourself and why you thought/think what you did/do in a well written logical way will gain you respect. If you can play, go talk to some of the regs in the area, im sure some of them would stake you.

I am sure you are sincere & serious. Do not doubt that in the least... Trying to understand how/why the digs & jabs may help me or are objective in my search/to my post. Everything has been in grey & rather an indirect diss to my character & attempts. Here I am returning responses (like an idiot) trying to maintain/keep my character & potential in tact. You are not the only one with concern or worries, but I'd rather deal with those in a position to actually help/benefit/or seek an additional horse, the words & time.

In defense of said backer... He disclosed all agendas & intentions upfront. A capitalist through & through seeking to make money pure & simple. I personally think he has a right to address a standard/quota on what he expects income to be. Again I was a pawn of sorts recruited to gather him information regarding various games, casinos, limits, etc. The $2K given to me was only for a test sample. The promise was more funds to come; which hasn't, & left me in a game of hurry up & wait. I disclosed the information here to show I can be trusted with large sums of money & as an example that I am one to be considered for an authentic/genuine stake.

The games in Washington are good. They are wet & truly sloppy... If you have a bankroll to ride the ups & downs there is very good money to be made long-term. Again, I AM NOT A CASH PLAYER. I only took on the games to gather requested data. I have no problems with poker. I stated that a $2K bankroll will not go far, or last long when you sit at a table with over $35K on it. Being I was pressed to play 3/5 & 5/10 with no roll; needed to play tight & take/make optimal moments. Prior to this sample stake, it had been more than three years since I played these limits. I do not enjoy the game. I had my fun playing 4-8 limit.

For a "Tournament Player" as myself, the very best option is online play. Volume will make up for the random odd variance situations I lose flips.

This is one of the hands that crippled me & affected my stake. *Please Note- This was taken from an e-mail to said backer, & please bare through as he doesn't know poker at all.

"Last night I played the $130 Tourney at Tulalip. Finished within the top 20. (I was first at my table out & I believe there was one or two others gone on the second table, making me out 17th or 18th of 100.) Afterwards; jumped in a 3/5 game to get money back... Was not there long at all. A few hands in dealt pocket jacks in cutoff position. (One seat before the button.) Hand played as follows... UTG (under the gun - seat after big blind) calls $5. Everyone folds to me. I position pop it up to $20. Button calls the $20. Small blind folds. Big Blind makes it $60 to go. UTG folds. Action is to me... This guy had been playing any two cards. (Again, my mistake.) Seeing that I was good, & could squeeze the button out I repopped him to $130. Button folds. Big Blind calls... Flop: Jx, Qx, 3x. Being I now had the set of Jacks, I bet out a micro bet hoping he'd raise. Well; he did & I reraised him. At which point he went to put me all in for a total of $420. (Pot had near $1k in it.) With no flush draw, I sat & thought about it. He most likely had AK, AQ, or AA preflop. I call thinking that we are good & I'm doubling up. He turns over Q3... I; & the table was in shock. This was typical of his previous play. Turn missed... Of course a two-outter Q fell on the river. His full house of queens over threes, squashed my jacks full of queens. It was so very typical of this last week. I let out a little chuckle & wished everyone well. That was the end of it."

Seriously. The purpose; or desired effect...? This was "forgotten" & "buried" on Page 4. Why rehash? Noticed it wasn't touched on for a week?

Made the point; & had fun in the process. (Yes; you got a little rise & response.)

Turned down two offers last week; & in the middle of negotiating a deal now.

Since it's back up-top on the board... Still open to last minute stake/loan offers. PM Terms Please.

Again; original post was only a "Feeler".

Uugggg... My Goodness. I am so tired of dealing with "NON-POKER" backers/investors. I prefer the knowledge & experience of a "professional". Again; I post to my thread as no backer really will want to spend the time looking through my application/back-story. I do see; & realize the competition.

I had an amazing deal in place. He turned out to be a German based investor. I had to say "NO". Was not comfortable with that... Though the EU is working through laws, I didn't want to be involved with international fines, penalties, or potential jail-time abroad or offending/contributing outside my own known jurisdiction.

Would so very much like to find such a deal... I am nothing less than serious.

I am looking for an "exclusive" contract now. Nothing "grey"; & am committed to you 'til the end. I seek the stake/loan to get moved & set up. Will happily do a 90/10 split in your favor plus agreed upon interest until you are recouped. 10% or $300 extra allowance/ bigger of the two + rent/food. (I am a minimalist. 97% of all I have ever owned is gone.) I am looking for long-term while the relationship is beneficial... MAKEUP WILL APPLY. I want to play poker the rest of my life; & you will be paid first. (Should you eventually sell/trade me to another stable.)

I will not break contract or terms... Nor ever put you in a position to dismiss me. I want full volume/full time.

For grins, I looked at my history or results, stats, & play. (Obviously, not the ones shown online/depicted.) In the most respectable/conservative regards, these are my low end estimates. These are taken from samples... Not an absolute, promise, or guarantee.

180's:

$2.50 - 350 games - $3,600
$4.50 - 350 games - $6,500
$15 - 175 games - $10.9K
$35 - 175 games - $25.4K

I will do good work & climb the ranks by your choosing. I will prove myself quickly; & be one of the easiest, & best working horses in your stable.

No longer wish to talk numbers here, but please PM me if you are as serious as myself. Need a few upfront expenses (ram, poker software, & usb video cards/adapters for additional monitors) & monthly expenses, then I'm yours grinding 50-60 hours a week or under your guidance through duration of contract. Obviously once completely square/break even. 70/30 in you favor (or better for me) the remainder of my term would be ideal/appreciated. ***Though I know I don't have leverage in talks.*** Coaching welcomed...

Again; Thank You.

Seriously Looking Again... (Remember this is only a "Feeler".)
Turned down a literal "Loan Shark" on Tuesday wanting 14% interest monthly (on full loan amount/it carries over; meaning not the remaining balance of debt) + portioned payment of total. No "exit"/buy-out option either... Was pretty tempted, but held out.
Rather deal with someone who knows poker, staking, & risks/opportunities involved. Someone who understands the definition of Makeup.
I'm fully aware of what I am asking/seeking. Will far surpass your expected results...

This is my life without online poker:

is this what you estimate to make? Over the given sample?

Thank You very kindly for your question. I do appreciate it.

The estimates are purely a best guess based scenario. Truthfully, I'm uncertain as if it is the best method for proper or logical rationale. The $ Value is representative of/by only 1st Place Finishes. (Not including any other Final Table finish or min cash/push.)

I no longer have access to Stars. I believe the payouts were as follows for the 180's (give or take a few bucks):

$2.50 = $125
$4.50 = $220
$15 = $740
$35 = $1,730

The totals were based on 30 1st Place finishes for the $2.50's & $4.50's out of 350 Tourneys. 15 1st Place Finishes for the $15's & $35's out of 175 Tourneys. Didn't know the exact payouts so the estimates were rounded.

Again; this was very low end (expected minimum return) as I want more Volume & expect far more success, no matter the stake level-limits given.

Honestly; I can't put a value/worth on myself/results til' I'm back in the saddle & have a few months to rebuild speed of game.

he believes his own lies...wow

thid thread is like crack to me. Wanna leave it alone, cant leave it alone.

Dude, you are saying you expect to win ~9% of the 2.5 and 4.5 180 mans you play? Do you understand what a ludicrous idea that is? If the best 180 regs could do that they would all be millionaires and nobody would play other games. You will be fortunate to win 1.5% of those games (the 2.5/4.5s, at the 35s it would probably be like 1.1% max). You also realize the grinders in those can put in 200 games a day right, and that they can having BE months and 500BI downswings?

and why have u not looked at the results shown online? Because the results u personally keep are fantastically distorted to games you played well and almost surely ran well vs opponents ranges?

I didnt come into this to bash you originally, but you need some reality/hate thrown into that fantasy land that you live in

The win rates you gave are like 10 times what the world's best win at. You are clearly delusional and know nothing about the game.

Some people just need to be told directly, you happen to be one of them.

Don't play poker, ever. You won't make money from this game.

I'm not saying this to be rude, or to entice you to try to prove me wrong. I mean that in order to be a good player, you need intelligence, and hard work and before even beginning to take the shot, you should actually understand the game and possible win rates and such. You havn't taken the time to bother to learn anything about the game or the industry, if you can't do something basic like this, why do you think you can be a winning player?

You seem to have very very very unrealistic expectations, that will NEVER EVER Happen. For your sake, try to go to school and get a real job.

I like the results that you speak of and am very interested in staking you.

Do you need a car or truck to get down to Mexico, because if so, I can provide one for you (nothing fancy of course, probably 2002 model sedan at best, with decent paint of course).

Also, for staking purposes, I need to verify your age and that you are of legal age to play online. If you are not of age then I cannot stake you, unfortunately.

If staked I ask that you take the stake very seriously, as I am an American and not a German investor, I can provide very serious potential for authentic/genuine steak.

As far as bankroll is concerned, I am curious as to how much you require. As gimmetheloot has pointed out, pros can easily have 500bi downswings. Because I know this to be true, and I have deducted from your posts using reasoning and logic, that you are wanting to play $35 buyin 180-mans, I am assuming you will require at least $17,500 to get started. But because your stats and potential to do well are so high, I'd of course, be interested in maximizing my investment opportunity. That being said, if you think you could do equally as well at higher stakes than that, I may be willing to back you for slightly higher games (but not too much higher, of course).

Please let me know.

-CAvino

wat

since a PM has not been sent in several days, I cannot take you seriously in your desire to be staked. I wish u the very best of luck.

-CAvino

Dude if this is ur expectation of winning at 180s man become a coach...i will pay u 5K a month to teach me how to have these results...

Man seriously if this is a joke thread admit it and move on....and if u seriously want to be staked dont joke abt the game... there is no way anyone who has played a turbo game in his life will have these expectations...so learn a lil abt the game environment if not the game and then ask for stakes......and you mention "this was very low end (expected minimum return) as I want more Volume & expect far more success" god are u serious if ur this good u will never need stakes

So; I'm here... Bumping.

Been a long five weeks dealing with a potential backer... Don't see it going anywhere. Too good of a player & person to be jerked around...

Looking for offers/bids for backing/relocation partnership. Still willing take it in form of a loan... My ideal is "partner" & longer term, but will settle for paying up to 5%. When I have a 2k tourney sample size, you'll see my worth. If you don't like me or results, you should have no trouble selling my action off to another stable. Will even go into this arrangement in terms of make-up... With a tiny cut, until loan is repaid in full. I do have minimal expenses that need to be met.

Few weeks back, loaded Stars again. ("Play Money" unfortunately.) Playing recreational; just to get up to speed again... After four months of no online play, these were my results:

23 Tourneys
15 Final Tables
3 Bubbles
12 Cashes (2-1st of 27's & 2-2nd in 45's)

Will be purchasing HM2, but shouldn't take me long to really learn the software. (I was a former IT/Software guy.)

Eh; I guess I should say let the ridicule begin? No bad press right??? *chuckles*

Best thread ever.