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07-01-2020 , 07:32 PM

#6101

Schlitz mmmm

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lol numb-nuts

who's this ItsSkylol?

07-01-2020 , 08:22 PM

#6102

ScreaminAsian

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some non-mfc streamer

07-01-2020 , 08:36 PM

#6103

gregorio

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Knock knock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlitz mmmm

who's this?

Spoiler:

07-01-2020 , 10:25 PM

#6104

AlwaysFolding

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Things that are not okay:

1. Being okay with people dying just because they were weaker in your opinion.

2. Prioritizing big business over human lives by saying "we have to keep business open to save human lives." No, you don't, stop bailing out banks and financial institutions and start regulating things in a way that's fair for the people enriching them.

3. Agreeing with fuluck about generally anything he's ever said in omg.

07-01-2020 , 10:27 PM

#6105

wisski

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding

Honest question, not trying to agree with fuluck.

Death is inevitable, why do we make sure a big deal about when it happens for people?

07-01-2020 , 10:32 PM

#6106

gregorio

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People get sad when people they care about die so they'd prefer the risk of death be lowered whenever possible

07-01-2020 , 10:33 PM

#6107

Schlitz mmmm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wisski

Honest question, not trying to agree with fuluck.

Death is inevitable, why do we make sure a big deal about when it happens for people?

#2 iirc

07-01-2020 , 10:33 PM

#6108

wisski

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Gotcha, so it's more a delay the grief as long as possible and maybe you'll die first and avoid the grief?

07-01-2020 , 10:37 PM

#6109

AlwaysFolding

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wisski

Honest question, not trying to agree with fuluck.

Death is inevitable, why do we make sure a big deal about when it happens for people?

This question needs a little bit more specificity.

A 90 year-old Alzheimer's patient who has no recognition of loved ones and perpetual mental anguish: not such a big deal as their quality of life is diminished and the burden that they have may be vast and extend past their own suffering. I see this on a regular basis.

A 30 year-old with asthma who would otherwise live another 40 years dying from COVID-19 is a slightly different story.

07-01-2020 , 10:39 PM

#6110

AlwaysFolding

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wisski

Gotcha, so it's more a delay the grief as long as possible and maybe you'll die first and avoid the grief?

I figured this was the next progression of your question, fuluck

07-01-2020 , 10:40 PM

#6111

AlwaysFolding

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Death from preventable causes are generally looked at as a bummer. Society does overvalue life though*.

*This deserves an edit: given today's state of affairs with regards to racial equality this is not entirely accurate

07-01-2020 , 10:41 PM

#6112

wisski

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding

Listen I get it, I wear a mask, I don't go out, I take the precautions... More so people can't blame me for their shitty situation than to preserve life.

I just don't think that the two stories are that different in you example, living those 40 years continuing to consume and propagate whatever they were going too could lead to a worse outcome in the end. We don't know, we have a good base of assumptions to predict, but we don't know.

07-01-2020 , 10:42 PM

#6113

AlwaysFolding

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Everyone dies. They don't all have to die prematurely.

07-01-2020 , 10:43 PM

#6114

AlwaysFolding

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But that leaves up an existential question: if they die from disease, is that premature?

07-01-2020 , 10:43 PM

#6115

Schlitz mmmm

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lol if you're making love to a beautiful supermodel, this too will pass

the start of that is pretty interesting, gets a bit trite after a couple minutes tho

07-01-2020 , 10:44 PM

#6116

AlwaysFolding

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The answer is yes if it were relatively preventable. The answer is no if it were congenital and incurable or acquired through risk-taking behavior. Other exceptions exist as well for both ways but this is general.

07-01-2020 , 10:45 PM

#6117

Schlitz mmmm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding

But that leaves up an existential question: if they die from disease, is that premature?

it's part of the equation, goofball.

nothing is premature if chance of certain variables contributes to something.

07-01-2020 , 10:45 PM

#6118

wisski

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Yup speaking in general though, if 100000 people die of this disease, does that mean in 100 years there will be 10,000,000 fewer people around to die of the next one?

07-01-2020 , 10:45 PM

#6119

AlwaysFolding

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I wish I were ****ing the beautiful supermodel forever

07-01-2020 , 10:46 PM

#6120

AlwaysFolding

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No, it doesn't, because if the 100,00 that died from this disease were mostly older they wouldn't be contributing to future numbers. ldo!

07-01-2020 , 10:47 PM

#6121

Schlitz mmmm

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Clearly, relatively preventable does not jive with our society's inability to act collectively.

so, it becomes less preventable

07-01-2020 , 10:47 PM

#6122

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wisski

Honest question, not trying to agree with fuluck.

Death is inevitable, why do we make sure a big deal about when it happens for people?

death is the ultimate state of freedom. no wants, no needs, no worries, no problems!

rent due: $0
electrical bill: $0
netflix subscription: $0

i could go on and on about the benefits of being dead