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02-19-2011 , 01:57 AM

#176

TiltNRun

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 696

is river agg stat based on opponents river bets or raises or both?

02-19-2011 , 01:58 AM

#177

MsBlueberry

The Night Nurse

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,450

Quote:

Originally Posted by allinontheturn

Now you're talking my language!

02-19-2011 , 01:59 AM

#178

jmitchell42

mother****ing photoshopper

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 16,275

Quote:

Originally Posted by MsBlueberry

Now you're talking my language!

mine too.

also easier to scroll through a bunch of pics with no conversation, not as interesting, but easier.

02-19-2011 , 02:00 AM

#179

j2sooted

scooter, politard king

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8,574

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiltNRun

is river agg stat based on opponents river bets or raises or both?

( raises + bets)/(raises + bets + calls + folds +checks)*100

02-19-2011 , 02:04 AM

#180

allinontheturn

'Merican Dullard

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 22,649

If you saw two guys named Hambone and Flipper, which one would you think liked
dolphins the most? I'd say Flipper, wouldn't you? You'd be wrong, though. It's
Hambone.

02-19-2011 , 02:06 AM

#181

LuckyLuke01

veteran

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,403

wut

02-19-2011 , 02:08 AM

#182

TiltNRun

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 696

i dont use HEM so i'm prob asking noob things

would using river agg stat actually stop someone paying off value bets?

i'm assuming a high % is easier to call and a low % is dependant on sample size

02-19-2011 , 02:11 AM

#183

LuckyLuke01

veteran

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,403

i mean sure it might work at the higher lvls

02-19-2011 , 02:13 AM

#184

Beauseefuss

banned

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,744

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiltNRun

how long does it last?
3 weeks, but last year was a bit longer.

this an invite?

yes

02-19-2011 , 02:14 AM

#185

j2sooted

scooter, politard king

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8,574

value bet implies soemthing about bet sizing, which this stat says nothing about. but yes higher is easier to call, lower harder.

02-19-2011 , 02:15 AM

#186

j2sooted

scooter, politard king

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8,574

also, u need at least about 100 hands on soemone b4 this stat even starts to get significant

02-19-2011 , 02:15 AM

#187

LirvA

banned

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 43,574

thx cooter

TNR, affirmative

02-19-2011 , 02:17 AM

#188

TiltNRun

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 696

Last edited by TiltNRun; 02-19-2011 at 02:25 AM. Reason: ugh profanity will delete in 1 minute

02-19-2011 , 02:18 AM

#189

LirvA

banned

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 43,574

also imo with a high river agg. % you can have a better idea on the turn if you're gonna be facing another bet or not so that can help your turn decisions imo

02-19-2011 , 02:18 AM

#190

allinontheturn

'Merican Dullard

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 22,649

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiltNRun

i dont use HEM so i'm prob asking noob things

would using river agg stat actually stop someone paying off value bets?

i'm assuming a high % is easier to call and a low % is dependant on sample size

Yeah, if you see an opponent isn't actually betting the river a ton then you can fold the river correctly more often. Of course that HUD can't tell you if he's more likely to bluff after certain lines/in or out of position/on a variety of boards.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyLuke01

i mean sure it might work at the higher lvls

Right, that's why 1kNL is so much easier than 10NL

02-19-2011 , 02:21 AM

#191

allinontheturn

'Merican Dullard

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 22,649

Quote:

Originally Posted by j2sooted

also, u need at least about 100 hands on soemone b4 this stat even starts to get significant

You need a lot more than 100 hands. Someone can play 100 hands and have only have 2 or 3 spots where they are even involved in a river decision (obv it's possible to have more ... or less)

02-19-2011 , 02:21 AM

#192

TiltNRun

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 696

would deliberately buying showdowns in the short term pay off in the long run iyo's?

02-19-2011 , 02:22 AM

#193

allinontheturn

'Merican Dullard

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 22,649

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiltNRun

would deliberately buying showdowns in the short term pay off in the long run iyo's?

I don't understand this post

02-19-2011 , 02:24 AM

#194

TiltNRun

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 696

Quote:

Originally Posted by allinontheturn

You need a lot more than 100 hands. Someone can play 100 hands and have only have 2 or 3 spots where they are even involved in a river decision (obv it's possible to have more ... or less)

this is what i was thinking when asking the last question, you need a lot more info/hands to get enough data imo

02-19-2011 , 02:27 AM

#195

j2sooted

scooter, politard king

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8,574

Quote:

Originally Posted by allinontheturn

You need a lot more than 100 hands. Someone can play 100 hands and have only have 2 or 3 spots where they are even involved in a river decision (obv it's possible to have more ... or less)

i hear ya. but u usually only get big multiple thousand hands on ppl if they are regs. its a read, not a fact. and its only one hud number when making a decision.

02-19-2011 , 02:27 AM

#196

allinontheturn

'Merican Dullard

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 22,649

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiltNRun

this is what i was thinking when asking the last question, you need a lot more info/hands to get enough data imo

OIC, so you mean like "call for info"? That's not what you're supposed to do, but I have to admit I do it sometimes. It depends on how big the bet is, but sometimes I"ll think, "Well I don't think I'm getting quite the right price here, but if I call then I'll know what he played like this."

Of course then the person usually instaleaves after this and I