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That for me is close enough. If you want to argue over like $45 then go for it, she might be a reasonable person, but for me, it's her house and she can set the price.

11-04-2017 , 06:05 PM

#3828

AlwaysFolding

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Dabs took the words out of my mouth.

Maybe you could convince her to take on half of the internet and pay her 510 a month? Other than that, this is kind of the way it goes with landlords. I hope you find a job soon though.

11-04-2017 , 06:17 PM

#3829

Jellyfishcake

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I guess I’ll just start by asking her where she got the 550 figure from since she said she wants to be fair

11-04-2017 , 06:38 PM

#3830

fidstar-poker

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Think you have to live with it. You agreed to the price. Sounds like she has supplied all the furnishings as well, so you need to take that into consideration.

11-04-2017 , 07:00 PM

#3831

Jellyfishcake

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fidstar-poker

Think you have to live with it. You agreed to the price. Sounds like she has supplied all the furnishings as well, so you need to take that into consideration.

She said the price was half her mortgage which I never saw until recently. I would be better off with an empty house but fortunately she has a garage, so most of my things are stored on my half. My ex still has my major appliances, which somehow he thinks he’s entitled too. I was planning on saving up and moving into my own place soon, so I wasn’t too concerned about the numbers. But now the rent and bills are eating into my savings.

11-04-2017 , 07:01 PM

#3832

Jellyfishcake

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Have you always been green fidstar?

11-04-2017 , 07:15 PM

#3833

fidstar-poker

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Many many years ago my better half had a similar situation, but it was with a store that had been divided into two. She was told she was paying half the rent. She later found out she was paying all of it. So we just packed up and left.

Did she say something like "Your rent will be $550, which is half the mortgage"? It's pretty hard to argue as you knew all along that it was $550. She lied (or maybe remortgaged, or interest rate change?), but it's not over that much money. I'd live with it, but like you said it's month to month, so if you aren't happy just move out.

11-04-2017 , 08:18 PM

#3834

wisski

mister fancy lad exceeded expectations achievement boy

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And thus it begins, in for 300$... full table with multiple stacks above 500$... run good one time

11-04-2017 , 08:22 PM

#3835

wisski

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And the first hand I see is 5 way for 35$ preflop.

11-04-2017 , 08:32 PM

#3836

gregorio

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Fold

11-04-2017 , 08:34 PM

#3837

wisski

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Omgomgomg is not a poker forum.

11-04-2017 , 08:40 PM

#3838

fidstar-poker

I'm gonna need a hacksaw

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Raise

11-04-2017 , 08:42 PM

#3839

ScreaminAsian

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all in, baby

11-04-2017 , 08:46 PM

#3840

wisski

mister fancy lad exceeded expectations achievement boy

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I have successfully pulled off all of those moves...

Double up complete!

11-04-2017 , 09:02 PM

#3841

ScreaminAsian

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i hope you're saying "baby"!

11-04-2017 , 09:11 PM

#3842

wisski

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Bebeeeeeeee

11-04-2017 , 09:27 PM

#3843

Kristy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellyfishcake

I’m wondering how I should bring up my rent issue with my roommate. I just found out her mortgage is $1015 (taxes and insurance included) and my share of rent prior to bills is $550. Somehow she thinks this is a fair arrangement.

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Your logic is bad here. First, the price should be set compared to other similar rental situations. Her actual mortgage should be pretty irrelevant

...but if it weren't...she should be profiting at least a little, and you are forgetting about wear and tear, and upkeep. If the (plumbing) has issues tomorrow your rent stays the same, and she pays the repair. There are costs beyond mortgage to having another person living there.

11-04-2017 , 09:27 PM

#3844

allinontheturn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellyfishcake

Here's a thought experiment for you. If she had the house paid off and no insurance/property tax, would a fair price be $0?

11-04-2017 , 09:37 PM

#3845

AlwaysFolding

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Capitalism is capitalism.

11-04-2017 , 09:56 PM

#3846

Jellyfishcake

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Quote:

Originally Posted by allinontheturn

Here's a thought experiment for you. If she had the house paid off and no insurance/property tax, would a fair price be $0?

Every time rent was discussed she made it clear that it was half the mortgage and that I was responsible for half of the utilities. The rent is relatively high compared to similar situations, but I needed to find a place quick and she was the only female whose house I viewed. She also drinks half a bottle of Jameson and at least 6 beers every night. This could be why her numbers are off.

11-04-2017 , 09:59 PM

#3847

wisski

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But does she have a neck tattoo?

11-04-2017 , 10:04 PM

#3848

Jellyfishcake

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wisski

But does she have a neck tattoo?

No but she has a tattoo of a knife on her back. Now that I think about it she was really drunk when we were discussing the terms prior to move in. She was in the process of kicking her ex out who was violent

11-04-2017 , 10:11 PM

#3849

allinontheturn

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She shouldn't have lied about the mortgage based on my belief that people shouldn't lie. But the mortgage is irrelevant to the rent. I think it's what lawyerly types like JM3 would refer to as "immaterial"

On an unrelated note I want to buy a 5+ qt dutch oven. There are 2 markets for them - expensive ones like Le Creuset for $300+ and cheap ones for $50-$100. Are the expensive ones worth it?