Hi all,

So this hand is somewhat like the 77 hand I already posted on 567r. Hero opens TcTh at 5/10 $700 eff. to $30, fish CO calls, aggressive reg considers 3! OTB but flats, BB calls.

Flop ($120): 89Tdd. Checks to CO, $90, BTN $250, folds to hero who is the eff. stack. Do we fold, since someone must have a straight? Jam to cooler a lower set and pair+draws/2p? Call?

Thanks,
DT

Easy all in prob shouldn’t be playing 5/10 tbh if you’re only in @ 70bbs

yo.

do you really fold top set here 70 BB deep?

is that what you are asking?

I mean, you asked it, so i guess that's what you are doing.

Ask if you can put more chips on the table, and then declare all in.

Slam dunk allin with 70bb

I'm certainly not seriously considering folding. I probably just jam now I guess.

We flop a set with SPR of around 5. Fold is obviously out of the question. All in is the only move here, out of position, with numerous scare cards to possibly come on the turn. This is possibly the most straightforward hand that I’ve ever seen posted to 2+2.

Betting $250 on a $210 pot seems like he’s trying to protect his hand against a draw. That includes 2 pair, an over pair, a smaller set, or a pair with a draw. Luckily you have all those beat.

I’d call and play it cautiously. I wouldn’t assume he flopped the straight.

I wouldn’t shove because best case scenario he folds and you take just the pot, worst case he has a straight and you’re ****ed. If button is a reg you know we should give him more credit than expecting him to call with just a draw.

So you’re trying to extract chips from him while dodging the big draws. I think you just call. If the turn misses he’ll fire another round trying to protect his hand, same on the river. I think if the draws connect there’s a good chance you’ll be able to check it down and be able to go to the showdown for cheap.

I see this as strong position where he is defending a good hand against the draw. It just happens that you have the best possible hand that would need defending so you’re way ahead on that front. The most value you’re gonna get is from a call and letting him lead out again I think.


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Button is not betting $250 into a $210 pot. He's raising a $90 bet into a $120 pot to $250.

If you want to think about it that way, you have to put button's call in first. So after his call the pot is $300 and he's betting $160 into it.

After this raise, if hero folded and BB folded, the pot would be $460 and it would be $160 to the CO to call.

It's not a particularly big raise.

We don't know stack sizes of anyone other than hero. If they're not that much bigger than hero's stack size, I guess he doesn't have to make or shouldn't make a large raise since there isn't much play left afterward.


I don't know about the rest of your analysis that I didn't quote either. Button could have 99 or 88 or certain draws and call a shove with them (really any draw he raised with will call hero's shove since he'll be getting almost 2.5 to 1 pot odds, but he's probably more likely to have raised with 12+ "out" draws); he doesn't always have a straight when he calls a shove from hero here (not impossible he could even have a few combos of two pair). And if hero just calls and BB and CO both fold, then on the turn the pot will be $620 and hero will only have $420 left. Hero will be out of position. I feel like hero will basically have to open shove safe turns and unsafe turns will suck to play. Might as well shove on the flop and not give button a free card if he happens to have a draw.

And even against a straight, hero has like 33% equity.

The first post I made in this thread like a month ago, I think I also didn't realize hero was short when I said "I probably just jam now I guess." Now that I realize hero started the hand with only 70 big blinds, I don't think any other play is really much of an option.

If we have the best hand now, we’re in great shape

If we don’t, we have outs versus literally everything.

I’m getting it in here and whatever happens, happens


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You should never have just folded pre instead of opened. As played, fold, then cash out and cry yourself to sleep with a rom-com and a glass of warm milk.