Anyone want to share their range in a full ring table (tourneys and cash)? I often find myself flatting to many hands in middlish position facing two raises (ex a10o, kxs etc..) I think its a little fishy and its something I would like to fix. Anyone want to share some strong flatting ranges? Say facing one raiser or two etc?

Ive seen some GTO charts for online cash/ tourney poker from some of the best training sites. pokercoaching.com has some free charts if you sign up (give them your email address, for free limited membership)

In cash games with no ante there is much less flatting in middle position. Tourneys because of the ante there is more flatting.

For example, LJ opens to 3x in a 100 bb cash game. A lot of charts these days have the HJ and CO 3 betting top 9-12% of hands for a linear 3 betting range. With 0% flatting. Same with SB. So they say 3 bet 88-AA, AKo, AQo, KQo ,all suited Broadways and A5ss.

On the Button you can 3 bet your top 8% and flat the next 8% of hands because you have ultimate position.

Obviously this is assuming solver ranges, but the theory behind it helps show how flatting in middle position allows the players in position to you and the initial raiser to either 3-bet or flat behind you. Which decreases your equity share and equity realization.

In summary, it sounds like your flatting too much in middle position. I would tighten your range and not play ATo or K9s. Start 3 betting more (top 10% hands) and only flat hands at a low frequency that are right on the border of the top 12% (like 77,88, ATs, JTs, QJs,) if your not on the button.

Because of how weak live poker usually is, combined with no rake games for 5/10+, you can definitely deviate from "solver ranges" and flat more hands from every positions. Especially deeper, and especially with weaker players involved. Small-med pairs, suited broadways, suited aces go up in value a lot, especially when people behind you aren't 3betting enough.

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I think the best answer to that is how computer libratus playd against pros 100bb, 6 handed.
there wasnt calling ranges. Libratus called only AQ,AJ folded, TJs,89s,T9s
Mayby some QJs and KQs
I want to see what he did against 4 bet such hands like qq and ak. He called 4 bet.

It treid to 3bet polrizised ranges like AK+JJ+ vs A4s T9s,TJs
I think if you follow AI ranges your play seems fine.

This is a very complicated question to answer. I'm not sure if you've seen any solver pre-flop charts - while they're not meant to be all memorized and followed exactly, there are literally hundreds of charts because there are hundreds of situations to consider!

Even if we're just talking about flatting against a single raise, that still depends on what your position and the position of the opener is; and if there's a caller in between, then all 3 positions matter. Changing the position of any 1 player changes the optimal range, and sometimes quite drastically.

ATo and Kxs probably should not be part of any calling range except when facing a single raise from the BB.

I lean more towards 3-betting or folding for all positions except BTN and BB because of the risk of being squeezed by an IP player, and then you either fold your equity or play OOP with a capped range; but throwing in a few calls with a medium-high PP or suited broadway is probably okay. Calling ranges are usually much stronger than what you'd expect intuitively - you should only invest in the pot by calling if your hand is ahead of some part of the opener's range, and (optimal) opening ranges from EP are very strong - which is why strong-ish hands like ATo that you might open yourself from MP are 100% folds against a raise.

Especially deeper, and especially with weaker players involved. Small-med pairs, suited broadways, suited aces go up in value a lot.

I would tighten your range and not play ATo or K9s. Start 3 betting more (top 10% hands) and only flat hands at a low frequency