Hi all,

5/10 $25 UTG straddle on. First to act (UTG+1/reg) makes it $75, hero flats to his immediate left with QcQd $1.2k eff., SB and straddler call. Should I just be 3!/GII here with 50bb against a reg UTG open?

Flop ($300): 9-3-2hh. Pfr $150, hero calls, SB reg c/r $400, fold, pfr jams $2.3k eff. (SB covers). Hero? Pfr can have 99-AA, AKhh I guess. SB...dunno.

Thanks,
DT

fold
if he has TT, JJ, KK, AA then ur breaking even vs that range, but he also has some sets so that kills our overlay.
now throw on the fact that SB has the strong x/r sets in his range i just dont see the +EV

and i like the flat pre from these positions, u can backraise if squeezed ^_^ personally i dont have a 3bet range in that spot.

Yeah, 3! gii is the play here. Qq is too good 50 bb deep, even utg v utg+1 you're slaying here. I guess a flat isn't terrible since you'll be able to gii pretty easy postflop assuming clean runouts, but I think 3! is superior given how short you are.

Ap, fold. Two players demonstrating strength, yeah sometimes sb will have hearts and utg will have jj, but I think you're beat more often than not.

If you'll back raise a 3 bet, why not just 3 bet yourself?

I'm guessing because worse value hands behind (AQ, AK, TT etc) are incentivised to squeeze for thinner value given the "dead money" but should fold to an UTG+1 3bet.

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why would you not 3b/gii with QQ <50bb eff?

A lot of people flat their entire range in these positions. UTG should be pretty snug. Flatting makes sense for everything except maybe AA/KK.

How these conversations ignore image and actual UTG opening range discussion baffles me.

In the venues I’ve played in I personally see more regs limping AA and KK utg then opening it. And using that line nearly 100% of the time. For UTG opens I tend to see self-perceived semi-bluffs from these players such as 99 and other pairs and suited aces or AK. When they do open with AA and KK from earlyish position they make it huge, like 8x. But that’s the middle aged casino dwelling rec reg player habits I’ve personally seen. Don’t know if that’s your player here.

What is your image if you 3B and how will this particular UTG player respond. I think that’s why you flatted, knowing you would only win his open versus anything less than QQ. So I like the play but don’t have math ready to support it as more profitable.

As played I fold because absolute best case you are against two players with flush draws and overs, or you are up against JJ and a flush draw which gives you lots of equity (50%) in a 3 way pot with a little dead money, but the often worst case you have two queens only and fading the heart or overset (<5% I estimate>

agree with bolded
limping AA KK you see more in $1-2 $1-3 and some $2-5 thou
not in a $5-10-25 game

Not 50bb deep

Yeah not 3 betting here I would say is kind of terrible.

Lol wat?

I dont know what is your and UTG image here.I would 3-bet and then depends on UTG and my image on the table se what to do on 4-bet,probably fold beacuse ma 3-bet looks pretty strong.As played like you its easy fold.