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05-24-2018 , 02:32 PM

Nordling89

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 297

Don't usually post live hands, rather comment on them but after a super tilting session just want someone to talk to. Lost 50bbs over 5 hrs but feels like 1000.

Macau. 9 max. 50/100HKD (6/12 USD)

Hero image loose-aggro exploitative style. Villain seems competent, aggro pre, careful post.

2 limps(irrelevant fish), hero on BTN 130bb with AcJs raises 5bb.

Villain 100bb 3bets from BB to 13bb.

Hero 4bets to 27bb. Villain calls.

Flop As8s9s. Pot 56bb. Villain checks. Hero bets 15bb, Villain ch/raises 40bb.

Are we going with the hand?

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05-24-2018 , 07:09 PM

Jarretman

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can't fold yet

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05-24-2018 , 08:41 PM

RosaParks

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I'd probably prefer a flop check. I call, but ****s about to get real awkward.

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05-24-2018 , 09:13 PM

AllTheCheese

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Sincere question: What is the rationale behind the micro cbet here?

I also don't understand the preflop 4b, seem like a great spot to flat.

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05-25-2018 , 12:01 AM

diskoteque

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 30,420

Sizing is bad pre and post

As played I fold and feel good about it

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05-25-2018 , 12:22 PM

DannyAIC

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Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 270

I think best case scenario you're up against KK or QQ with a spade. Worst you're completely dominated.

Don't understand the 4 bet preflop like someone else said.

I would consider you getting check raised due to your strange C-bet on the flop, but you said villain seems careful, which says to me he's not getting too out of line.. As played, you might have to call, the price is way right, but unimproved easy fold on the turn. If a spade comes you can reasses, in case your opponent played three aces this way, which would surprise me. The K and Q of Spades is well within your opponents range.

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05-29-2018 , 08:46 PM

The Muffin Man

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I would never describe someone as competent who takes this sizing line with any hand.

If you have a read that he very rarely does this with better, I don't mind 4betting for value/protection.

I don't hate the flop sizing but I like a check with this particular hand.

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05-30-2018 , 05:05 PM

jdr0317

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Originally Posted by The Muffin Man

Ya his three bet size is too small. Even a range as strong as 99+/AQ+ is giving direct odds for a hand like Th8h to play him IP. I'm sure it comes with a tell too (which is maybe why OP opted to 4 bet with this hand).

I do think a check would be sweet on this board. You can get most of it in anyway given stacks.

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06-17-2018 , 12:03 PM

::justin::

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Originally Posted by diskoteque

Sizing is bad pre and post

As played I fold and feel good about it

this 100%.

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06-24-2018 , 08:40 PM

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iamallin

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Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 363

Don't 4 bet pre imo. Getting great odds to flat ip

I would check flop imo

Can't call this raise. You each would have invested 67bb with 33bb effective left behind.

So either ship it or fold. Math says ship it. Live poker wisdom says fold.

You choose your destiny Neo. You either take the blue pill (gto) and play a math game or take the red pill (exploit their ass) and I will show you how deep the nit hole goes.

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07-05-2018 , 10:55 AM

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awake283

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Sizing is weird. Check flop?

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07-05-2018 , 12:18 PM

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dannyboy6292

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Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 262

I raise more than 3 bb's with two limpers and action behind pre. That being said, I flat turn. The whole raise or fold is for the birds.

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07-13-2018 , 08:44 PM

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Nordling89

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some day i will find the strength to give in depth analysis about this hand...

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07-14-2018 , 03:52 PM

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TheGonza

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If opponent is aggressive pre I dont see why we dont call, Id call 10% of hands here obv AJo is included in that, as 3bet aggressor he will get himself in trouble alot oop vs you, take the advantage, not saying never 4bet for value here but AJo isnt the hand to do it with imo, puts you in spots like this.

Id much prefer to 4bet bluff hands with blockers if i was to bluff, AJo is to strong for that

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07-14-2018 , 05:36 PM

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HawkesDave

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Yeah I really dislike the flop cbet here. In a 4b pot your hand is pretty much the textbook definition of medicore on a monotone board.

As played, once he check-raises you? I guess you can still call here and hope V gives up. Having the Js here helps since it blocks two of the non-nutted hands that might continue after a 4b but you've put yourself in quite an awful position here for no apparent reason.

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