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Old 03-25-2019, 04:03 PM   #1
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KK spot

EP raise $30, hero CO $120 KK, OMC cold 4! SB $375, EP folds, hero calls. Eff. $2500.

Flop ($780): A-A-Q. OMC checks, hero checks.

Turn: K. OMC checks, hero bets $250. OMC calls.

River ($1280): K. OMC says "I don't know what to do here." And bets $350. Hero?
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Old 03-25-2019, 04:51 PM   #2
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Re: KK spot

Shove. He's gonna call to chop and you are going to give him the bad news.
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:01 PM   #3
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Shove. He's gonna call to chop and you are going to give him the bad news.

What do you think OMC's cold sb 4 bet range is (I think it's AA, KK, maybe AK suited, maybe AK, maybe QQ)? With all of the kings accounted for, I think you're going to get to look at quad Aces quite a bit. When he doesn't have quad Aces, is OMC going to call a shove with AQ (which he quite possibly can't have)?
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:17 PM   #4
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Shove. He's gonna call to chop and you are going to give him the bad news.
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:18 PM   #5
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Funny hand. Cant raise, cant fold. So we have one option left. I hope there is a jackpot to ease your pain.
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Old 03-25-2019, 10:44 PM   #6
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Re: KK spot

If the room has a jackpot, just call.

If the room doesn't have a jackpot, min raise and fold to the shove.
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:07 PM   #7
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Sick spot. Seriously sick. He can't possibly call with worse. What A does he have besides AA? He's an idiot to call w/ QQ. Just call.
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:25 PM   #8
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Do OMC's 4bet w/ AQ? Does Hero have a LAG image?
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Old 03-28-2019, 04:06 PM   #9
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Do OMC's 4bet w/ AQ? Does Hero have a LAG image?
No and no.
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Old 03-28-2019, 07:10 PM   #10
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I really hope there is a bad beat jackpot!
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Old 03-28-2019, 08:30 PM   #11
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Ak more likely than AA. I shove. If I lose, bad beat jackpot baby!
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Old 03-28-2019, 09:18 PM   #12
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Ak more likely than AA. I shove. If I lose, bad beat jackpot baby!
How many kings are in your decks?
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Old 03-29-2019, 12:39 AM   #13
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I really hope there is a bad beat jackpot!
Most 5/T games don't have one.
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Old 03-29-2019, 09:28 AM   #14
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Most 5/T games don't have one.
That's silly. I understand PLO, but not 5/T. I've only played 5/T at the Aria, though, so wouldn't know
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Old 04-01-2019, 01:28 PM   #15
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So AQ or JJ isn't in this guys' range here? Just AA or QQ at this point? I guess you just have to call if that's the case since he's folding everything but AA to a shove. Him checking both streets is odd though, you think he'd try to get some value if he did flop quads.
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Old 04-01-2019, 01:44 PM   #16
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So AQ or JJ isn't in this guys' range here? Just AA or QQ at this point? I guess you just have to call if that's the case since he's folding everything but AA to a shove. Him checking both streets is odd though, you think he'd try to get some value if he did flop quads.
Nope just loves to rub it in that his "perfectly laid trap" worked when you get in 2nd nuts vs his nut quads.
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Old 04-01-2019, 07:05 PM   #17
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Are you really lost with quad kings otr? If you really think he's only capable of cold 4betting with aces, you should have folded pre not otr with quads ("OMC" is used so generally these days you need to define his range more that that. In other words, if he's just an old unknown guy with a coffee in front of him, he's not an OMC). My 5/10 games have a bbj I would be fist pump jumping out of my seat calling as fast as I can (probably jamming and getting called by AK, esp if you have an aggressive image. You think he's checking twice with quads?).

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Old 04-01-2019, 08:24 PM   #18
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Called by AK? Foul deck.
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Old 04-01-2019, 08:33 PM   #19
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Spoiler please.
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Old 04-01-2019, 08:43 PM   #20
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Hero just called. V tables AA. Bad beat.
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Old 04-02-2019, 12:27 AM   #21
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I’ve seen enough OMC’s that literally only have aces there to accept the fact that I’m paying him off with my quad Kings there.
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Old 04-02-2019, 05:44 PM   #22
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Iíve seen enough OMCís that literally only have aces there to accept the fact that Iím paying him off with my quad Kings there.
If he was that tight we would have folded pre
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Old 04-02-2019, 10:36 PM   #23
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If you really think he's only capable of cold 4betting with aces, you should have folded pre not otr with quads.
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If he was that tight we would have folded pre
Come on man. If he shows us the AA pre should we fold?
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