Hi all,

This one was a head scratcher. 5/10. V seems mediocre, once floated k73 flop in 3! Pot with J2 and went runner runner trips against flopped top set and GII for $1800 otr. I have seen him rip his overs/fds against a $500 stack in a single raised pot.

V opens utg $35, two callers including very tilted and spewy SB, hero makes it $185 in BB with KcKh, everyone calls. $1900 eff.

Flop ($740): Q-T-2ss. Spr is 2.5 Against three Vs. Tilted SB tips $900, hero tank calls, UTG re-jams, fish BTN ($1,200) folds. Hero?

Thanks,
DT

Preflop needs to be more. My rule at 100 bb is 4x the raise + other money in the pot OOP. In this case, we’re talking $210. Given we’re deeper, I think a $225 or so is going to be better. Obviously $185 isn’t miles off, but I want to charge more with the best of it and cut down the pot size.

Can’t find the fold here. Once we call not closing the action, his rip is a minraise if I’m counting stacks right. Or like 4.8:1 on our money or something. Seems likely we will be getting the price to continue. I would prefer jamming the flop FWIW, don’t see much merit to calling

And of course we have a tilty Sb and spewy V who both seem likely to show up with something bizarre a nonzero amount of times. Just never folding here.


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+1 to what jdr said. So many draws, pair+ draws and other funky stuff possible on this board that i am never folding KK in a big bloated 3 bet pot here. Get it in and live with the variance. If you feel like the variance is getting to you and you hesitate to get it in here its a good chance you are playing too high relative to your bankroll.

Thanks, I eventually called (and lost to TT, ofc).

Meh happens. Last thing you want is to fold getting that price and see AQ from the villain you’re deep with scooping the pot.


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Who had TT, UTG? And what did the other guy have if you saw? Seems like you're always losing your money here. Just curious.

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Go bigger pre like at least $240 (or even more if villain's are sticky) and easy jam vs the sb lead on the flop

If sb didnt lead I'd just overbet jam the flop

Why jam versus standard sizing, especially since we're multiway? One tenet I try to live by is bet a sizing that will be called by worse. Are Vs calling all their Qx and draws versus a 2x pot jam against a BB three-bettor?

SB didn't show, but I assume some sort or draw or Qx. What do you mean by the bolded? "Here" as in in this 5/10 game, or "here" as in this spot?

Sorry bad wording by me. I'm always losing my $ in this spot. I can't imagine the SB donking with better then KK unless you have seen him do something similar with his 2p+. And also playing his draws passively. After he donks and we invest so many chips, we feel sick when UTG rejams. But even then you has a pelothera of hands we're beating. Value and high equity draws.

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