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07-15-2020 , 02:48 AM
Playing in a 5/10 game with $20 straddle, a good TAG pro in UTG+1 comes in for $35. An unknown in the cutoff calls and it folds to you in the SB with KJs. Stacks are about 100 BB's. Is this a call or fold? If a fold, are you calling with KQs or AQo?
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07-15-2020 , 08:13 AM
Oops sorry make that a 2/5 game with $10 straddle!
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07-15-2020 , 12:47 PM
Mostly vpip. Should be 3b fairly often
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07-15-2020 , 06:57 PM
Call is better than a raise.

Calls will encourage calls from the BB and Straddle which provides you great odds with a hand that plays well multiway.

Raising to $205 or so is better than a fold imo, but when you get 4b you have to fold, when you are called, you are playing OOP against a good player, and you are discouraging such great odds. I guess the 3b is fine with some history and a good image, some of the time.
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07-21-2020 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pgcounty
Call is better than a raise.

Calls will encourage calls from the BB and Straddle which provides you great odds with a hand that plays well multiway.

Raising to $205 or so is better than a fold imo, but when you get 4b you have to fold, when you are called, you are playing OOP against a good player, and you are discouraging such great odds. I guess the 3b is fine with some history and a good image, some of the time.
This entire post is so bad and so wrong on every single point you make. Holy moly smh
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07-23-2020 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
This entire post is so bad and so wrong on every single point you make. Holy moly smh

Less so bad & more so just outdated.
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07-28-2020 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jdp
Playing in a 5/10 game with $20 straddle, a good TAG pro in UTG+1 comes in for $35. An unknown in the cutoff calls and it folds to you in the SB with KJs. Stacks are about 100 BB's. Is this a call or fold? If a fold, are you calling with KQs or AQo?
I would fold KJs or KQs. If my read is the UTG+1 player is good, V isn’t going to be opening that wide which puts these two hands at an equity disadvantage against V’s opening range. If I call, I will be playing OOP, with an equity disadvantage, without the initiative, against at least one good player, maybe two (cutoff). Calling is ugly.

3-betting with KJs or KQs is still ugly because I bloat the pot under bad circumstances but at least I have the initiative and might get heads up which increases my odds of winning the pot.

Most of the time, I fold AQo in this spot as well. If I decided not to, I would 3-bet/fold AQo and pot control if we go to the flop. A good player IP isn’t going to pay AQ off big frequently given this action. If the pot gets big, AQ is normally a dog. As strong as AQ looks, it is a trouble hand to play OOP against a strong player who raised UTG+1, with or without the straddle.
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08-04-2020 , 03:02 PM
Are the 100BB stacks referring to the actual BB, or 100 straddles?

Sounds like the former, which makes this hand effectively 50 blinds / $500. I'd probably fold KJs. The stack size is awkward - too small to comfortably 3! and too big to jam.

I definitely don't think calling is the right move. I don't have a flatting range from the SB (though flatting from the SB certainly can be part of a winning strategy), but (1) you have the BB and straddle behind who can potentially jam $500 into a pot of just over $100 after your call, (2) UTG+1's range is likely ahead of your KJs, and (3) we don't know what CO's calling range is; if he's a stronger player, his calling range against an UTG+1 open will also be ahead of KJs. Even if you see a flop, you're OOP against potentially 2 strong ranges, you're not going to be profiting from this hand.

If we're 100+ straddles deep, I'd 3! sometimes and fold sometimes. Not sure what the ideal frequency is, but 3-betting 1 combo of KJs and folding the rest is probably okay. KQs and AQo I'd probably 3! more combos and fold less, but def still not 3-betting all 12 combos of AQo.
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08-09-2020 , 01:49 AM
Minraise is unusual in a live setting where games are usually pretty cally.

Minus a live read that either player is likely to be trapping I’m not folding this juicy holding and most likely 3betting because I’m a bit of a spazz but I just resent late position trying to see a cheap flop with pocket fours.

Cannot fold to a minraise though.

Edit
Whoops just seen it was a bigger open still not folding still want to attack the Set-miner but less frequently now.
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08-10-2020 , 03:41 AM
fold pre
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08-12-2020 , 08:31 PM
if you're playing 5/10/20, hopefully you've moved on from static hand charts.

this is a frequency play and depends on your range construction.

Yeah, i know, sounds lame. Maybe it is.
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08-14-2020 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fuxxnuts
if you're playing 5/10/20, hopefully you've moved on from static hand charts.

this is a frequency play and depends on your range construction.

Yeah, i know, sounds lame. Maybe it is.
By static hand charts you mean optimal pf ranges? The whole reason they have charts is that pf is mostly solved already
The rest of the post makes pretty much 0 sense. How does the frequency of your vpip % depend on your range construction?
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