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Interesting scenario with AK... Interesting scenario with AK...

07-01-2018 , 11:05 PM
$10/$20 NLHE

Table has been wild ever since a whale and villain 2 joins the table.

The very first hand the whale and villain 2 joins, it was an all in pot which villain 2 lost when he shove all in with just a open ended draw at turn

To the hand.....

Hero:$1.9k
Villain 1: covers me (passive fish)
Villain 2: $1.5k

TAG raised $80 UTG, Vlllain 1 calls, Villain 2 calls, I have AKo at sb and 3b to $275, TAG folds, both villain 1 and villain 2 calls. 3 way pot into flop:

Flop ($925)2d 6c 8d (roughly that texture, can’t remember exactly)

I cbet ard $550, villain 1 folds, and villain 2 thinks for like 5s and then shove...

I need to make about $700 more to call to win a pot of $2300.

So while I was tanking, I observed that villain 2 was sitting upright with his eyes looking up with occasional glances at me. When he caught me stealing glance at him, he stopped and only look straight and upwards after that.

Two questions:

1) is a cbet mandatory here?
2) do I have the right odds to make a call?

Last edited by Andnoel; 07-01-2018 at 11:21 PM.
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07-02-2018 , 01:09 AM
Preflop: You need to make this larger. You are making it 275 from 80 with 2 callers, and you are doing it out of position, so they are getting amazing odds to call you and are going to have position. I would make it about 450ish preflop fwiw.

Flop: You get called in 2 spots, flop nothing, and this is a decent spot to give up. You are probably not balanced at all in your 3 bet pre range, so you probably have only big pairs and AK here, so when you flop nothing, I'm ok with not continuing here.
You bet and now are facing great odds to call an all in and are not sure what to do, which should tell you that this bet was a mistake.

These points are way more important than how long he glanced at you before staring down at his chips.
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07-02-2018 , 02:00 AM
3 bet a little bigger pf for value vs whale.

Flop bet needs to be smaller. Over half pot on this texture is bad. 275 again would've been just fine.
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07-02-2018 , 02:45 AM
You are the whale
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07-02-2018 , 01:08 PM
Yes you must call as played.

You are risking 700 for a 2300 pot and getting 3.3:1 ~ 23.3%

Assuming they have a one pair hand you have 8 outs ~ 34% Equity in hand.

34%>23.3% so you are getting great odds to call.

Also don't forget there is a chance they are shoving with a flush draw which you are currently ahead of.
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07-03-2018 , 08:44 PM
flop sizing needs to be a lot smaller, like 1/3 or slightly less or you need to jam flop, for precisely the reason of if they jam over your betsize you can't fold anyways (so yes as played call)

preflop you can definitely size a bit bigger, although I will say that on 100bb in a squeeze spot even oop we don't have to go super huge like 4x + 1x per additional caller. I'd probably raise to $360~
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07-04-2018 , 02:08 PM
You're just going to bet into two people and not knowing what your response is when they (obviously) shove? This isn't a complicated tree after the SPR is like 1,something. There's only two scenarios that you need to plan for and that is when you get called and when you get shoved on, that's not much. The fact you didn't think about this causes:

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You are the whale
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07-05-2018 , 12:22 PM
I dont like the C bet on that board. AK sucks. Here fishy. JK
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