foxwoods, hero has super loose, young LAG image, wearing hoodie ect. Not a reg here, swingy image. Could be perceived as strong player or too loose depending on who you ask because of the way I'm running. Was seen cold 4 betting 99 from the sb over a maniacs button squeeze from 170 to 500 got called, villian had 900 left flop was 456dd jammed got called turn 6 river 8d and lost to j7hh. I've 3 bet a ton today, I'm stuck big but not spewing or noticeably tilting but still playing very agressive. Opened K10dd utg1 called in 2 spots and got 2k in on Qd9d4x vs what I think was KQSS but was unsure, was so relieved to get there one time I didn't even make seeing his hand a big deal. Played a bunch of other big hands and have been coolered a ton.

Villian is supposedly the most winning reg here. Played1 hand against him earlier where I flatted his 3 bet out of the bb with AK from the CO floated him on 973hh and then jammed on his double barrel on a Q, had a pretty strong read he was light. He's been noticeably frustrated since coming from the must move, ran some bluffs that didn't work, ect. When then bigger games run 10/25 ect he plays those.

3,100ish effective

Insane spewy young kid (the kid with j7hh) opens CO to 30, hero 3bets to 100 otb with K10hh, villian cold calls in BB, kid folds.

Flop K104r checks to hero I bet $125, villian raises fairly quickly to 425 hero flats

Turn 8 villian bets 800 hero thinks and decides to flat again, I don't trap often, especially 2 streets but decided this was the spot to do it. The turn is the spot where I decide I'm going with the hand no matter what

River 8 villian asks dealer if I have any big chips that arnt visible dealer says no and villian jams, I have about 1,700 left

Any thoughts about anything is greatly appreciated, thanks guys.

8 on the river doesn't change much unless you think V flats AA pre because of spewy kid. You block KK and TT. Looks like an overplayed AK, AA or air. Does a winning reg cold call 44 pre at 5T? In this situation I call it off

It sounds like we need to call off, hero has been loose and bluffy and running badly, and has probably pissed villain off by jamming turn in the previous hand.

I'm not fistpumping, but I'm calling especially given villain plays higher so a $1700 bet isn't as nutted as it would be for most

I agree with others. Gotta call.

Seems like a pretty clear call. Curious what hand he took this line with, could you post results eventually or PM me.

Wow, really weird hand by V considering you have KT. Seems he'd have to flat AA or KK, and I doubt that happens pre very often. He could have TT or 44 pretty easily, except that you block TT. He could still have it, though.

Just not sure we can fold, but what do we beat that flats pre and takes this line? I guess AKo?

yup; calling this

i like your line also fwiw - i would play every street exactly the same

I mean, what does H's hand look like? You'd think he has to have at least a K on the turn? Maybe V is thinking KQ or KJ?

Given dynamic, it's a call, but it is a sigh-call for me. I'm just not sure what we beat except a straight-up bluff or AK. I almost want to fold.

I would call it off here since we block top and second set. Not much 8x should be in villain's range. QJ could triple barrel, so could AK. You could even be chopping. If the turn brought a backdoor flush draw, that adds more bluffs to villain's range. This is a bluff or a cooler, and I don't base decisions off of outliers. This is usually a bluff.

I would probably post this hand in the appropriate forum as a first tactic.

This forum is for 5/5 and smaller.

But, given the description of villain, and the HH, I'm folding ott, and not thinking twice about it.

lol what?

I call river as well but I probably would have raised the turn, especially given your image as described by previous HH's.

I'm curious how this can possibly be an easy fold OTT.

lol I've a wicked small sample in the FW 5/10 but this is sure different from the nit fest I've tried.

Interesting that he'd jam that card, I'm pretty sure you're beating no value at this juncture. Issue is, I don't see this player type cold calling a hand like 44 so you're looking at a funky played AA/KK or TT that beat you. And you have KK and TT (the more likely hands) almighty blocked. Plus you've been seen 3 betting wide (as KTs in this hand is evidence of), so I'd for sure call off here, though I'm not too happy to do so.

Also, curious as to what was shown down if you saw it.

I can't see if V is "the most winning reg here" that he is going to raise OTF and fold out all of our light bluffs rather than letting a bluff happy player bluff.

The line just seems like V is FOS

Wat? This is like the nut hand to call down the flop xr with.

Villains is playing a set the way good villains play sets.

Turn bet is sized to setup an AI shove OTR.

Or you can believe that V is x/r OTF with essentially air.

Villain is setting up a jam OTR without knowing if Hero has any big chips behind?

Villain can absolutely x/r OTF with air (not often), not to mention QJ or A4s with a backdoor.

Good players play the same hands differently against different Vs. There isn't 1 static "good way to play a set"

Indeed. And if this is John the lawyer (best player I know at FW), then he could easily have this line with his entire range.

Ok, so what's his range?

{AA, KK, TT, 44} we lose to, 11 combos
{AK, QJs, spazzing} we beat

1700/6085 = ~28%

he only needs to bluff/value cut with 5 combos for our river call to be profitable.

Seems about right. And I did advocate calling (but would have raised the turn).

A4s could bluff with a backdoor. Two combos there.

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I saw you or someone else mentioned A4s higher up, I'm just not sure a good player is cold calling a 3! with A4s from the blinds. I think they would 4! or fold that hand

Honesty, I think it's moot anyway because there are 8 combos of AK