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c-bet sizing set aces wet low board 3 players c-bet sizing set aces wet low board 3 players

12-21-2020 , 09:50 PM
Hi, I posted this in the micro forum but it's not well visited and thought I might get a better answer here if you don't mind.

I'm a 8/16c lag reg and had been playing full ring against 2 particular villains for about 2 hours on 250bb and got into a slightly strange hand.

vill1 (270bb) tag
vill 2 tag(100bb), calling station.

Flop comes As8s5c

Vill 1 cbets 1/3 pot 3bb...I reraised and he 3bet. I realise he has a few holdings that may do that, but my question is, if he had a set of aces, was his cbet size sensible? It just feels a bit wrong from a value/protection/pot building view but then the spr was v high.

Thanks.
12-21-2020 , 11:01 PM
you managed to write multiple paragraphs without posting positions, raise sizing, or almost any other useful info. impossible to analyze this hand w/o that
12-22-2020 , 06:39 AM
Many thanks for your reply, I actually posted all that in my original micro post but decided to truncate it here and accidentally lost that info, was v tired.

Open button 3bb r.

vill1 (270bb) is tag and, apart from some low opening bet sizings from early pos, was fairly solid and demonstrated some thinking ability. There was one hand though (not the one I'm asking for advice on) when I thought his play was highly suspect/wrong when he got into a deep turn war ai with nut flush draw on a super wet board with one over in pos as defender.

SB will raise 2pair and sets but unlikely draws, and I've shown that I sometimes do the latter, though not oop if he was really observant.
12-23-2020 , 05:53 PM
I've been giving this more thought and maybe over-analysing it at the level I'm playing, but I'm trying to learn and improve and it's a really intriguing play that I've never seen before.

Maybe I'm giving the guy too much credit but I suppose he knew it was going to be hard to get much value. I can see how it could be very useful to underrep, esp v high spr (does that mean the sizing matters less?) The small cbet still feels fundamentally wrong though. I know we don't have to play optimally, if there even is an optimal play here, but this is where I'm at...(any thoughts?)

I don't think we need to be induced to raise strong holdings and draws will call/raise v a bigger bet if they're going to chase.

It's extremely unlikely that someone also has a set or 2 pair on that board if he has 3 aces, especially as played...he knows either of us may well be 3betting 88 55 pre.

It's unlikely 8x without a club (gifting flush) continues beyond the turn with his read on our play, but if we are calling flop we'll probably call bigger at this level (well, sb will anyway ;-). So there's only realistically draws, and they're the one hand you're trying to deny. So should we not maximise our value and give the wrong odds as normal? Even if it's just a few more chips. I know the spr is still going to be v large, and he's still well in it if a flush/straight hits, but I can't help thinking that we should just play fundamentally correctly? Thanks
02-08-2021 , 08:09 AM
Dry board you can bet your whole range for 1/3 pot. The wetter the board, the bigger the bet with made hands and semi bluffs
02-10-2021 , 09:51 AM
nah man don't do it
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