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05-15-2017 , 10:51 PM
Hero(CO - $275) - 26YO persian kid with hoodie(Don't wear hood over my head if that matters). I'm not going to pretend I know what people think of me, but I rarely limp and have slightly larger raise sizes than the table.

Villain 1(SB - $240) Pretty tight guy. He stacks all his chips up perfectly aligned, so my initially read just with that was that he's tight. Relevant hand. He was in the SB where UTG+2 opened $12, BTN called and he 3! to $57. UTG+2 put on a little show and shoved ~$135. He called with JJ and held.

Villain 2(UTG - $250) Typical loose passive player. Plays way too many hands pre, and only bets/raises with the nutter butters. But will call down light.

Villain 3(UTG+1 - $47) This is a quiet 30s WG who started with $120. Relatively tight pre, only bets/raises post when he has it.

(V2)UTG Straddles to $4. (V3)UTG+1 Limps. Folds to Hero. Hero raises to $20 with Q T. (V1)SB calls. (V2)UTG calls. (V3)UTG+1 Shoves for $47. Hero thinks and puts in $115

Thoughts?
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05-15-2017 , 11:59 PM
Nh
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05-16-2017 , 12:26 AM
Dare I say standard. I would just shove yourself however. You want to maximize your FE vs. the field and having a 250-450 pot with $125 behind is kind of silly.

Last edited by johnnyBuz; 05-16-2017 at 12:32 AM.
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05-16-2017 , 12:30 AM
well played. you have a 40 overlay on a 134 pot. unless shorty has you dominated, this is printing money.

would really really suck if he flips QJ or KT over here.
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05-16-2017 , 12:53 AM
You really should shove. You can't fold if someone shoves over the top and you want folds so may as well gii yourself.
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05-16-2017 , 11:54 AM
Okay, seems we agree it's pretty standard. I'll play out the hand cuz it's LOL bad.

SB calls. BB Folds

Flop(Side:$136, Main:$161) A J 4

SB donk jams $125. I fold. He tables K K

Turn: 6

Rive: 5

V3 tables 87o to win the main with runner runner straight, and V1 takes down the side with Kings.

I roll my eyes and add on.
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05-16-2017 , 01:03 PM
Seems fine to me.
If you're going to get a call from 87s for 1/2 of effective stacks, then this is an amazing result.

gg wp

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05-16-2017 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Seems fine to me.
If you're going to get a call from 87s for 1/2 of effective stacks, then this is an amazing result.

gg wp

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Slightly misread. SB flatted half his stack with KK. He called Half his stack from SB.
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05-16-2017 , 03:08 PM
I guess I'm going to have to disagree with the consensus here. I would just call with QTs. This hand plays ok multiway and it's not a premium hand and you're likely to fold out some of the worse hands when you raise but at the same time this is live 1/2 NL it's unlikely everyone folds and you take down the pot.

As played when UTG + 1 limp raises it usually mean very strong hands. You're probably beat but you're probably priced in at this point to a call cause of the $20. I don't like the the reraise for 2 reasons. You're only getting called by better hands and you're committing such a large portion of your stack that you're going to be committed on the flop if you pick up anything. All in might be marginally better but I don't like that move either for the first reason. I'd say call here.
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