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10-24-2017 , 10:48 PM
$2-$5 NL on a Poker Cruise. I am new to table, main villain has 3x buy in only 1 hour after game has started, and has been seen to be quite loose preflop. Open raises his fair share, but flat calls lots of raises too. I am the effective stack at $500.

I open UTG with 55 to $15; Villain calls next, button calls.

Flop is T4c3c. I have no clubs. I bet $20, Villain raises to $60, I call.

Turn is an off suit T, we both check.

River is an off suit 4, Final board is T43T4, with a missed flush draw. I check Villain bets $100.
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10-25-2017 , 10:12 PM
I'd fold to flop raise.

As played, I'd call river. Gotta be good about 37% of the time. Assuming there isn't some crazy rake (which there might be since this is a cruise). Flushes missed and straights missed and based on description maybe villain is the type to bluff raise the flop sometimes with naked 1 or 2 overs; and some players (usually weaker players IME) may bluff the flop, then slow down, but then try again when it checks all the way to them on the river.
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10-28-2017 , 11:24 PM
Fold.
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10-30-2017 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
I'd fold to flop raise.

As played, I'd call river. Gotta be good about 37% of the time. Assuming there isn't some crazy rake (which there might be since this is a cruise). Flushes missed and straights missed and based on description maybe villain is the type to bluff raise the flop sometimes with naked 1 or 2 overs; and some players (usually weaker players IME) may bluff the flop, then slow down, but then try again when it checks all the way to them on the river.
The rake was $5. Not too crazy. I thought missed flushes were certainly possible, I just didn't give much credit to the hand he had, KT, which for some reason didn't bet the turn.
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10-30-2017 , 08:52 AM
Probably folding 55 pre UTG on a cruise.
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11-01-2017 , 03:38 AM
Gonna assume you're 6 handed or shorter to be opening 55 UTG. Don't bet flop OOP vs 2 players when the board favors their range. Fold to the raise. Could bet small on the river. As played, fold. Don't hero call with the bottom of your range.
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11-01-2017 , 01:44 PM
I suppose 5's might be a mediocre hand to call with just from a blocker perspective that he has less 65?

But to those suggesting fold, are you also folding 9's? JJ? AA? They all hold the same relative value as villian has a polarized range. The only difference when constructing our calling range is relevant blockers, and I feel as if people are suggesting fold purely from a hand strength perspective. It's not like we can ONLY call Tx, thats ridiculous.
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11-01-2017 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Loading....
Gonna assume you're 6 handed or shorter to be opening 55 UTG. Don't bet flop OOP vs 2 players when the board favors their range. Fold to the raise. Could bet small on the river. As played, fold. Don't hero call with the bottom of your range.
Does the flop really favor their range? They may have more small sets, but I have all of the overpairs and they don't.

I'd think I'd have plenty of my own missed flushes to fold, or is that circular reasoning?
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11-01-2017 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by YGOchamp
I suppose 5's might be a mediocre hand to call with just from a blocker perspective that he has less 65?

But to those suggesting fold, are you also folding 9's? JJ? AA? They all hold the same relative value as villian has a polarized range. The only difference when constructing our calling range is relevant blockers, and I feel as if people are suggesting fold purely from a hand strength perspective. It's not like we can ONLY call Tx, thats ridiculous.
We probably don't even have any Tx in our range. We do block 65s, but no flush draws. I agree he is polarized. I didn't think he'd play 4x this way either.
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11-02-2017 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Loading....
Gonna assume you're 6 handed or shorter to be opening 55 UTG. Don't bet flop OOP vs 2 players when the board favors their range. Fold to the raise. Could bet small on the river. As played, fold. Don't hero call with the bottom of your range.
Loading. Please elaborate how t43 favors ip here after they have cold called utg raise
Hint. (It doesn't)
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11-02-2017 , 02:22 AM
Why can he not have 4x? Classic fish play is to raise middle pair. He has way more 4x then you thats for sure.

Last edited by YGOchamp; 11-02-2017 at 02:44 AM.
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11-02-2017 , 01:11 PM
Based on the fact that this is a poker cruise and villain has tripled up yet $500 is still the effective stack, I'm going to assume the table is really short stacked and really really bad at poker.

From both of these factors, I can say two things about the hand:

1) This doesn't belong in this forum.

2) We can lol-open-limp 55 UTG.

T43tt would traditionally give us a polarity disadvantage (preflop callers have more sets and strong draws) but a range advantage (second and third pair are really hard to come by, so our advantage in the OP/strong Tx department beats out their split pairs with a few more middling Tx). That sort of situation plays well for a small lead with a wide range.

That said, I don't know how much ATs/JTs type stuff we have if stack sizes are mostly on the shorter side. But whatever, this is probably like a notch above Facebook poker, so with a vulnerable hand and all those draws out there, I'd probably just b/f until the board got ugly.
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