5/10

Villain in this hand literally just got moved to my must-move game..He is young looking and starts talking to good player at the table about a hand they played earlier..seems competent. Moves to table with ~3k

Hero: young with hoodie and headphones in. Sitting with ~2k

Villain opens cutoff to 30, hero 3b button to 90 with AQdd. Villain takes some time counting out chips and calls.

Flop: KK6hh

Villain checks, Hero bets 120.. Villain calls somewhat quickly

Turn: 6c

Villain leads 185, Hero calls

River: 7d

Villain leads 505, Hero?

I feel like villain never plays 99-QQ like this as he would just c/c turn. AK can be somewhat discounted because he 4b it at least sometimes c/o vs bu. He could obviously be leading KQ KJ type hands for value ott but I reAlly felt like he was trying to blow me off. Comments? Thanks

is 4 betting AK here standard being 200bb deep? i played some 5/10 live but mostly 2/5 (buy in was 200bb though)...and I didn't see much 4 betting with AK.

that said, it seems like it'd be weird for him to lead unless he thought you had exactly AA and was going to be scared to bet because of the two kings. looks like maybe he turned a flush draw into a bluff?

I'd be a little nervous he turned JJ or TT into a bluff even though that would be sorta pointless. I wouldn't hate a call but there is some merit to raising to fold those hands out?

yeah I wouldn't fold though...**** it.

His line makes sense with AK and I don't expect him to 4b it all the time.

Don't think he takes this line with Jj or qq... Much more likely to c/c imo as you're not very often paying him off with ace high

Seems like turn is a fold, and if you decide to call turn you should fold river

@mg0698: I can understand the wanting to fold turn sentiment...but why "if you decide to call turn" should you fold river? I mean if you call the turn, you're hoping you have the best hand at that point. the river shouldn't change anything. yes he shows aggression again...but I don't get your reasoning here.

The fact that he bet again changes things

*Grunch

If V is as competent as you say then he's not bluffing in this spot very often unless he's got a solid read on you. Fold...You 3b and then continued and he is still in there. That line is mostly 6x and kx and the occasional pp. If you are confident in your read then go for it but otherwise I would fold

He don't want you checking turn = fold. Plus he knows nothing about you so it's doubtful hes making a move. Minraising river to fold 6x could be interesting, he has more of that in his range than Kx imo

I didn't like folding turn..am I folding 1010+ just because he leads turn in this spot? if I'm folding turn here he can lead turn and most of my 3b range has to fold..agree that when he bets again on river it seems strong.. I did end up calling in this spot and he mucked but still not sure if I like it

How does someone get moved to the must-move?

BTW how many bullets do you bring? Cos you're gonna need lots if you're calling down big barrels with Ahi from unknowns..

apparently more than one must move table and it's a daisy-chain

Fold the turn and if you somehow found a call on the turn, def. fold the river. Making these hero calls Live is very spewy at best. A competent live player could have played 1010 or JJ and obviously AK as Villain did... just fold the turn.

i can't even imagine why would villain bet a king on the turn if he slowplayed it on the flop? to get value from AA or QQ? why wouldn't he check and let hero keep betting.

I can see him sort of half blocking bet / half valuing JJ/TT...that's why I would consider raising river...just to blow him off of those.

plus having AQ blocks a few combos of AK and KQ. I dunno. I really don't get the people saying if you call the turn, fold the river. I'd just make my plan on the turn for the rest of the hand and not fold.

Fold turn. As played, fold river. The only thing you have going for you is position but there's not much you can do with that given the board and action.

Did you have a specific read in the hand, if not river is EASY FOLD IMHO AS WAS PROLLY THE TURN... what hands is he bluffing you with here that you beat exactly... even if you hit the gin Ace on the river or a Q, what will you do

Villain can have so many King combos or even other pairs like JJ, TT etc that he is not folding here even to a river or turn shove

Villain can see Hero as JUST cbetting flop

I am betting turn here always with AK

fold turn > fold river > shove river > call river

I don't think it's that bad of a play. His line is really weird, my first instinct after I read your op was to call down. First - I don't think Kx or 6x hits his preflop calling range very hard to be honest. Most players are folding KJ or worse every time, 6x is just so unlikely even if it IS in his range (and we're really not sure that it is). Second - Pocket pairs aren't going to be making this play ever, like you said. Third - His turn bet doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If he had Kx or 6x, wouldn't he want everything including flush draws to stay in now? If the turn was like, the J, him betting the turn with a king would make loads of sense. But this looks fishy.