Middle set vs bad turn. How to get max value?
Join Date: Aug 2017
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3/5 $200 max at the commerce.
Not much history against HJ and Button. Both have limped a lot in the hour they have played. HJ limp folds in general and Button limp called a $30 open I made earlier. Both seem like rec players.
3 limps, hero opens to $30 in the BB with KhKd and the HJ and button call.
Pot:$90
Flop:AhKc4c.
Hero continues for $70. I'm never sizing small here with middle or bottom set. I'm OOP and aces and clubs are almost always going to continue for this price. There are also a decent amount of pair+draw/combo draw. However, I don't want to completely bomb it since they limped and so the stronger aces are mostly out of their range.
Button calls.
Pot: $230
Turn:3c.
Hero? He has $140 back so I'm never folding to a turn shove. So do I:
1. Bet $70 on turn and $70 on brick river.
2. Jam turn
3. Check turn bet $____ on brick river
4. Check turn and ship brick river
5. Check turn check river
Last edited by Badreg2017; 10-14-2017 at 02:46 AM.
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Pre bet sizing could be bigger, flop sizing could be smaller, both are fine as played. Since it's 230 effective and hero is OOP I'm betting flop to shove any turn that doesn't give me a boat. Commerce 40BB games are shovefests, your hand gets called by plenty of worse hands. Plenty of Ax combos with the club draw who call here, and boat redraw if we're beat.
If he checks back and fourth club comes on the river you get no value since he only gets it in with flushes. Depends on your image as well, I bluff often enough to get called here
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#2 ... Looks like effective stack of $240 to start the hand, 48 bbs, so not folding middle set here. Can't allow a free card to AcXx, so gii. If he has a flush you have 10 outs otr.
Pre - seems like a limpy table, so I'd go higher for value.
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I make it $40 preflop.
As played just shove the turn. Im guessing thats what you did...he folded...and youre second guessing yourself?
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Why check the turn when your villain is representing an Ace on the flop?
Don't worry about the flush. Even if he played all the club two pocket cards (45 of them preflop) he's more likely to have an Ace vs. a flush on the turn. And since you raised preflop some of the two club cards are unplayable for a raise. There are much more AX combos vs. 2 club combos for a preflop raise.
You should know all those things without me telling you what to do with a flopped Set on a 3-flush turn.
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