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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
Ok fine
Pf) you want to have a 4b range. Aa is the main hand for 4b. Spr/position/ are the main two factors in play here
Cold calling 3bs overall isn’t really a thing/Most good players play this spot as a pure 4b/f
Flop) his range is mostly just overpairs which you obviously crush. Way less sc than you think here. If he happens to have 2p here well then he’s just gonna have to win your $.
It’s really really bad to fold aa when he has kk or qq which is easily the most frequent hand you run into. Gl
So I have had 2 hands I posted here.
In OP i had AA, which i cold 4 bet (and got called). I didnt really go into postflop because I butchered it pre. I bet to $400 so he probably called with ATC cuz i went too cheap. I agreeus
in 2nd post, I raised, a pro V 3 bet (seemingly wide), i 4 bet with QQ, and then he near min 5 bet me, and i was completely lost as to his range, called, and then x/f on an 865 2 tone flop when he shipped for 1.5x pot. its possible i shouldve just folded pre, or called post, I have no idea what his 5 betting range is.
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
If you are correct about him giving up on his bluffs post flop then folding QQ is correct. In my experience a lot of players continue betting with their bluffs after 5-betting.
I think my game plan in this spot would be to call it off on any board where there is no ace or king. On the flip side, if you are holding AK you do the opposite. This works out very smoothly as you have coverage for both board types and you have a mixture of calls and folds for each.
The only other board that I might fold QQ is if the board comes monotone and you don't hold any of that suit.
With SPR of less than 2, you can be pretty comfortable stacking off your over pairs and most of the time it wont be a mistake to do so.
I have no reason to think he gives up on bluffs postflop except how Id imagine that I would be bluff 5 betting, since ive never done it or had it done to me (unless this was a bluff), so it was pure speculation mostly because i figure he puts me on AA/KK and on me not folding an 865 flop even close to often enough.
One thought I do have is maybe it would make way more sense for him to have suited aces as his bluffs for the blockers since he probably isnt too worried about playability, plus the A is good against KK. that would mean his semibluff ships would be 1 pair and FDs and OESD with A7, so id be in much better shape.
If V doesnt give up on bluffs post, im not sure i should even be calling the 5. The whole situation makes me wish i had just cold called the 3...