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Originally Posted by pilliapina
I'd rather go 1.5x pot. It's pretty ambitious to get him to fold an A and you need to really fire hard. But I think he will find the fold button for that size. But if your plan is to make him fold an ace, then 1/2 pot on turn is not that good. Why wouldn't you go bigger on the turn for value when there are still draws on the board, he may think.
Yeah, I'd call the river raise. You went 1/2 pot turn and less than half on the river, I can see flushes being raised and you are quite high in your range, so a fold is quite exploitable. Your job should be to figure out where the center is, roughly (balance) and then deviate from there depending on the strength of your read. I'd say that the deviation towards overfolding in this case is quite high, and you'd need a strongish read to deviate that far.
Yeah think going bigger would be better on blanks.
I know it's a big overfold but there is a large group of villains that just don't raise this river with less than a full house
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Right but remember we have king high lol.
Like I'm all for flatting to keep poor villains in in these scenarios:
Tight player opens CO we are btn AQs and sb is station whale that will stack off with tpnk.
Mp tag open, CO station whale calls, we are btn TT
UTG aggro opens and there's super aggro otb we have AA utg+1
Just think about why you want to let people in preflop imo. It's not usually when we have king high and will be oop to the pf aggressor.
I'm not saying flatting is bad, Id do it at some frequency but it would be for reasons other than keeping sb in to dominate him with K high
Yes, I agree... good points. I almost always 3bet here. This hand happened at like 330am and I was definitely tired and hanging around due to the 2 soft spots. Think something I need to work on for long sessions is not defaulting to being passive. At the table and looking back it didn't seem that bad. But as minatorr pointed out winning 8bb here uncontested is great.
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
Ah guess that changes it... I'd be more willing to bluff turn and river but as played it would change my river action to fold
I know you play a lot live and I'm sure you know exactly the villain type I'm describing that never raises flushes on paired boards. But it's bugging me bc my hand looks exactly like a 9 that's block betting the river which should give anyone with a clue an opportunity to value raise worse on the river.
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
Pre is a very easy 3-bet. You win 8bb uncontested if everyone folds. And if SB calls, which won't be too uncommon, you have position on him. 3-betting is much more +EV than flatting with K high oop.
I don't like the turn lead, esp when you size it that small. Also, you basically never have a full house here when you lead turn. He's also never folding a better hand here OTT or much of anything really, so not exactly sure what you're trying to accomplish.
River call, not thrilled. You made it 1/3 OTR, you can't just fold here vs a raise when he can be raising worse hands.
Totally agree that I should have 3b pre.
Turn donk is weird... I don't do it against regs or anyone decent. But this guy seemed like the right guy to try and bet/bet off an Ace.
What would you do on turn if i checked and he bets 1/2-2/3 pot? C/r -> bomb river?