$1000 effective stacks

No true reads. V seems "solid" but don't really know. Probably a reg type player but again don't know

V limps UTG +2. Folds to Hero OTB with K8ss. Hero raises to 50, V calls heads up

Flop KxTd9d ($115)

Villain x, Hero bets 65, V calls

Turn Ac ($230)

X, x

River 8 (no flush possible)

X, we bet $275. V thinks for a bit, looks like he is thinking about calling. Puts a thousand dollar chip out and says raise.

Hero tanks. Thoughts on line taken? Thoughts on river decision?

I'd check flop mostly with specifically K8; betting can be ok of course.

At first glance on the river not sure I love the overbet sizing with this combo. I think a lot of his calling range of an overbet would be leading river mostly with the exception of some Kx "hero" calls (which we block btw) but I guess this combo could fit into this bet sizing; we should definitely have overbets on the river here. FWIW without too much analysis I'd bet half pot mostly for exploitative reasons vs a random 5/10 player who limp/called pre.

River after his raise we have an easy fold ainec

Very small datapoint on V. Reason why I thought he was "solid" was he lost 60% of his stack in a big 3bet pot to a BS straight (vs. bad LAG) and immediately reloaded for max buy in (150bb). Again don't want to put too much stock (never played him before, only at table for 45 minutes), limp-call was an interesting data point as well.

My image: youngest guy at the table (mid 20s but prob look younger). I've played one pot aggressively with KK and got max value vs. LAG fish, doubled up.

Thanks. I thought this was a good board to overbet given the texture but you're right my hand blocks some of the hands I want to hero call (KQ, KJ)

When he shoved I immediately thought this is probably a snap fold (shove over overbet). As I thought more about it, I had a hard time figuring out his line and what he would take it with, so the hand got more interesting to me and felt I had more of a decision to make. Not sure, I'd also hate to level myself into a bad call

OP: what part of his range were you targeting for a call with your river bet?

Maybe in theory this would be a breakeven or slightly -EV call but in reality vs the average 5/10 player (and especially the average 5/10 player who has open limps in their preflop range) this is a very -EV call and a clear fold imo; I doubt you'd find people overbluffing this spot.

I wouldn't mind a flop x

Turn is fine.

I don't like river sizing, I think that the OB will just get too many folds considering how his hand range looks. I like 190ish better.

As played I do see your concern with what hand he plays this way. But I think without any info we will just be leveling ourselves if we call.

I like to leave it up to V to figure out which hands he wants to call with since they usually find something

More specifically, with the overbet sizing, I'm looking to get hero called by random ace, king, hands like JT, QT, and some weird stuff like T8, 98, 77.

Jarretman is correct to point out that my hand blocks a lot of those hands Kx and weird 2pair hands which is a significant portion of the calling range, and that makes me reconsider with this particular hand

Outside of potentially poor hand selection I thought this was a good spot to get max value from worse. I still think that but am open to opinions. Up until the river overbet:

- V hadn't expressed much interest in the pot (limp, x/c, x, x), thought his range was bloated with marginal holdings like single pair. Wanted to polarize to give them a reason to call
- Board runout bricked, no draws made it on the turn/river that didn't make it on the flop. A lot of bluffs in my range
- My overbet is very suspicious. I would never play an actual good hand this way, since I would never slow down on the turn on a T9dd board
- My image is conducive to getting called lighter, youngest by at least 10 yrs and already played a pot aggressively
- Global tendency for V's to call too much and look for hero calls (much like I was when he raised me )

Fair enough. In general, is it better to bet or check from below the average of our range here against this V who has flatted from ep pre and flatted our cbet? His busted draws aren’t paying but the range that beats you will call or raise. I like your bet size as it’s polarized but I’m still unsure about the river lead.

Hand seems fine to me. River sizing is odd (overbet), and interpreting his shove after he checked 3 streets has to be done considering what you think V thinks you would overbet with. In general, no one checkraise-bluffs the river at this level, but I wonder if you may have induced that because your overbet looks somewhat weak to V (especially after your turn check)? Unless he had previously seen you do this with the nuts, he could be shoving his entire range that has no SDV so it is maybe closer than others have said.

I still fold in game with no real history.

Interesting spot.

I leveled myself into a call that is definitely bad in the long and short run

V tables QQ. Dangerous