Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

Medium-High Stakes Full Ring Discussion of $400+ pot-limit and no-limit and 5/10 live texas hold'em full ring games, situations and strategies

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-10-2017, 08:39 AM   #1
DrCooper
newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 30
5-10 400BB deep, raising range in 3bet pot

5-10 full ring. hero running good, has won 2 pots vs villain including one he folded river OOP after 3betting pre. Villain is pro. Hardly played with him before though so no real reads.

Stacks 4k effective.

Weak player limps. Hero 50 in CO. Villain 170 BB. Limper folds. Hero calls.

Flop 365
J♠9♠3♦
Bet 150. Call

Turn 665
A♣
Check. Check.

River 665
7♦
Bet 480.

What hands should we raise here?
DrCooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2017, 10:21 AM   #2
diskoteque
Joey Local
 
diskoteque's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 29,693
Re: 5-10 400BB deep, raising range in 3bet pot

2p+ though we don't really get to river with this line and 2p+ very often.
diskoteque is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2017, 10:31 AM   #3
DrCooper
newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 30
Re: 5-10 400BB deep, raising range in 3bet pot

You would raise 97 here? What hands do you bluff? I agree that we rarely get to river with 2pair since we bet 2pair mostly on the turn.
DrCooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2017, 06:33 PM   #4
diskoteque
Joey Local
 
diskoteque's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 29,693
Re: 5-10 400BB deep, raising range in 3bet pot

I'd definitely like minraise/fold 97 here

I wouldn't get here with many bluffs bc I'm betting them on turn mostly. I might check Axss behind on turn with some frequency depending on villain
diskoteque is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2017, 04:29 AM   #5
DrCooper
newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 30
Re: 5-10 400BB deep, raising range in 3bet pot

Quote:
Originally Posted by diskoteque View Post
I'd definitely like minraise/fold 97 here

I wouldn't get here with many bluffs bc I'm betting them on turn mostly. I might check Axss behind on turn with some frequency depending on villain
Do you ever bluff raise?
DrCooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2017, 07:20 AM   #6
diskoteque
Joey Local
 
diskoteque's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 29,693
Re: 5-10 400BB deep, raising range in 3bet pot

I can't imagine ever having a bluff on river with this exact action so no
diskoteque is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2017, 05:17 AM   #7
TEAMTYNEZ
enthusiast
 
TEAMTYNEZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 52
5-10 400BB deep, raising range in 3bet pot

I'd Probably bluff q8ss KsTx 9Ts


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
TEAMTYNEZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2017, 02:05 PM   #8
guess_wh007
newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 20
Re: 5-10 400BB deep, raising range in 3bet pot

For value 77, 10 8, 9 7

Bluffs Q 10, some not all K high flush draws.

The villains range seems KK, QQ heavy going for thin value so I wouldn't raise much, maybe to 1100 with both value and bluffs.
guess_wh007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2017, 07:23 PM   #9
Lego05
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 23,755
Re: 5-10 400BB deep, raising range in 3bet pot

None. Because every value hand that we would raise on this river, we would have bet on the turn (or maybe raised on the flop), so we can't have any (except maybe T8s if villain checks turn in this spot a lot with hands that hit the A).
Lego05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2017, 01:37 PM   #10
The Muffin Man
old hand
 
The Muffin Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,961
Re: 5-10 400BB deep, raising range in 3bet pot

value: T8s, 77, 97s, J7s, A7ss
bluffs: 78s, 89s, 9Ts

Or something like that against someone against whom you are trying to play a balanced counter strategy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by guess_wh007 View Post
The villains range seems KK, QQ heavy going for thin value so I wouldn't raise much
Seems like we would want to have a raising against someone who usually has <top pair here.
The Muffin Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2017, 08:25 AM   #11
fuxxnuts
grinder
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 691
Re: 5-10 400BB deep, raising range in 3bet pot

for raising the river -- if you take muffinman's range,

what type of sizing are we going for if you plan on pulling the trigger?
fuxxnuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2017, 07:13 PM   #12
lolposting2016
adept
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 932
Re: 5-10 400BB deep, raising range in 3bet pot

I'd probably bluff w tt and that's it
lolposting2016 is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online