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07-28-2019 , 03:08 AM
2AM, 3 HANDED, table breaking up but can't yet combine with the main game.

$1k effective stacks

V is TAG-ish reg, first time playing with him

V opens $30 OTB

Hero 3bets to $110 in the SB w/ KQo

Flop: Ax6d4d ($230)

H bets $105

V raises to $250

H 3bets all in

V tanks

OK?
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07-28-2019 , 03:24 AM
3bet pre is fine, flop is interesting and there's a lot of different strategies you can use (simplified 1 bet size, 33% bet with range, split ranges, etc). KQo no diamond makes it into the bet range on some of those strategies but mostly it's a hand that likes to check fold if you don't have the Qd or Kd.

Facing the raise easy fold. 3bet jam the flop is spew city imo.
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07-28-2019 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarretman
3bet pre is fine, flop is interesting and there's a lot of different strategies you can use (simplified 1 bet size, 33% bet with range, split ranges, etc). KQo no diamond makes it into the bet range on some of those strategies but mostly it's a hand that likes to check fold if you don't have the Qd or Kd.

Facing the raise easy fold. 3bet jam the flop is spew city imo.
At the time I thought having the AK/AQ blockers could allow us to strongly represent those hands, making KQo a good bluff candidate. Don't we play AK/AQ this way?

Sometimes we walk into some monsters (2p+) but I think a V flop raise range here will be fairly wide including Ad, 57/67 type hands, maybe some air-ish hands.

Would love to hear how you think about it
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07-28-2019 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SandFish
At the time I thought having the AK/AQ blockers could allow us to strongly represent those hands
That's not how blockers work. Blockers block your opponents hand(s). If your opponent never has AK then blocking AK doesn't matter. DUCY?
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07-31-2019 , 03:57 AM
3b pre is pretty standard and not a bluff.

Flop i imagine KQo no diamonds are check/give ups, 3b flop with any combo is complete spew and lighting money on fire. Also people don't tend to bluff-raise this flop too light.
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08-02-2019 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jarretman
3bet pre is fine, flop is interesting and there's a lot of different strategies you can use (simplified 1 bet size, 33% bet with range, split ranges, etc). KQo no diamond makes it into the bet range on some of those strategies but mostly it's a hand that likes to check fold if you don't have the Qd or Kd.

Facing the raise easy fold. 3bet jam the flop is spew city imo.
Flop b/3b jam -> SpewCity confirmed. Hope the weather was great though.

Apart from that, rest of the line is pretty standard
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08-04-2019 , 08:14 PM
never betting half pot on this flop.
25%-35% is fine
70%-100% is fine

whats ur plan when u bet half pot and he calls?
seems kinda not fun

as per blockers, u block AK but isnt he getting that in PRE?
u block AQ but is he even raising flop with AQ?
seems like his value range is sets+2pair. SO the blocker u really want is a 6 or a 4 or an ACE
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08-09-2019 , 05:31 PM
More pre less otf fold to the raise
Looks like a punt
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08-09-2019 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarretman
3bet pre is fine, flop is interesting and there's a lot of different strategies you can use (simplified 1 bet size, 33% bet with range, split ranges, etc). KQo no diamond makes it into the bet range on some of those strategies but mostly it's a hand that likes to check fold if you don't have the Qd or Kd.

Facing the raise easy fold. 3bet jam the flop is spew city imo.
Im an idiot and didn't mention in the OP that V has been aggressively raising flops a lot. Sat next to him for 2 hours and he had raised 3 flop c-bets all heads-up on mostly dry flops. Never saw showdown but frequency was suspicious. This was 4th time and fishy since flop is fairly dry

If we want to exploit this, would it be correct to 3bet bluff OTF with 45s, 68s to punish V? We would have the blockers of aces up and sets and would balance the times we have AK. Can you get behind this?

Agree KQ is spew thanks for responses

Results: V tanked in pain for a long time, asked if I had AK or AQ, I obv didn't answer, he ended up calling shows ATo, operation punt successful

"Just so hard to fold an ace 3 handed, sorry" he tells me. Good to know next time....
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08-09-2019 , 10:07 PM
Ah in this case u can float the flop raise OOP, and x/r all in on the turn. Or if it goes x/x u can bomb riv

Shoving flop looks FOS imo
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08-12-2019 , 12:02 AM
If he's raising flops aggressively too much you can exploit it by having a jam range for sure but your equity when called is more important than your blockers if the hand has no equity when called, like KQo does. So you can jam draws, but not total airballs. Also you can jam thinner for value, like ATo+ in this spot, if he's raising too merged.

Another way to exploit this is by tightening your flop betting range. If he raises flops too much you can start checking with the hands that are very marginal bets in the first place.
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