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Old 06-25-2018, 12:50 PM   #1
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5/10/25 QQ facing 4b

Very standard spot.

Second hand at table, so no reads. 2 PM on a saturday, Hero is in HJ with QQ and 2000. Folds, MP3 raises to 75, Hero 3b to 250. Button 4b to 700, with 1100 behind. Folds to Hero.

Button is ~30 year old woman, who looks comfortable with these stakes, but otherwise readless. Hero? FWIW, you are allowed to run it twice in this game.
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Old 06-25-2018, 04:03 PM   #2
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Re: 5/10/25 QQ facing 4b

I think it's a pretty clear vacuum jam 80bb~ deep.

That being said, I will say that with her relatively huge 4bet size given how shallow you guys are and that she's IP, you can definitely consider folding; her 4bet sizing is terrible. Also I could see an argument that the aggregate population of 30 year women in 5/10 games aren't going to show up with enough A5s type hands or JJ to make this shove profitable, especially with this huge 4bet sizing.

btw is this a 5/10 game with an optional $25 straddle or a mandatory 3 blind structure?
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Old 06-26-2018, 02:23 PM   #3
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Re: 5/10/25 QQ facing 4b

Fold.

She is not folding her hand.

Your expected stack size at the end of the hand if you 5 bet shove is 1484 coz you have 40% against qq+, ak

Folding leaves you with 1550 boom..assuming 1800 effective stack

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Old 06-26-2018, 04:31 PM   #4
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Re: 5/10/25 QQ facing 4b

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I think it's a pretty clear vacuum jam 80bb~ deep.

That being said, I will say that with her relatively huge 4bet size given how shallow you guys are and that she's IP, you can definitely consider folding; her 4bet sizing is terrible. Also I could see an argument that the aggregate population of 30 year women in 5/10 games aren't going to show up with enough A5s type hands or JJ to make this shove profitable, especially with this huge 4bet sizing.

btw is this a 5/10 game with an optional $25 straddle or a mandatory 3 blind structure?
its 5/10 with an optional straddle, good point
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Old 06-26-2018, 04:45 PM   #5
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Re: 5/10/25 QQ facing 4b

^ I'd fold. Easy vacuum jam though.
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Old 06-26-2018, 06:34 PM   #6
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Re: 5/10/25 QQ facing 4b

Easy fold vs cold 4b here
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Old 07-05-2018, 01:19 AM   #7
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Re: 5/10/25 QQ facing 4b

Shrug and fold. You're 200bb deep (not including straddle, as you shouldn't) you can't be getting stacked with QQ
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Old 07-05-2018, 12:15 PM   #8
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Re: 5/10/25 QQ facing 4b

I fold. Shes got AK kings or aces. If it were a drunk guy or an asian I may jam. LOL
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Old 07-15-2018, 05:07 AM   #9
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Re: 5/10/25 QQ facing 4b

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Easy fold vs cold 4b here
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Shrug and fold. You're 200bb deep (not including straddle, as you shouldn't) you can't be getting stacked with QQ
jfc no wonder this subforum is so dead lmaooooo
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