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06-25-2018 , 12:50 PM

whorasaurus

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Very standard spot.

Second hand at table, so no reads. 2 PM on a saturday, Hero is in HJ with QQ and 2000. Folds, MP3 raises to 75, Hero 3b to 250. Button 4b to 700, with 1100 behind. Folds to Hero.

Button is ~30 year old woman, who looks comfortable with these stakes, but otherwise readless. Hero? FWIW, you are allowed to run it twice in this game.

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06-25-2018 , 04:03 PM

Jarretman

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I think it's a pretty clear vacuum jam 80bb~ deep.

That being said, I will say that with her relatively huge 4bet size given how shallow you guys are and that she's IP, you can definitely consider folding; her 4bet sizing is terrible. Also I could see an argument that the aggregate population of 30 year women in 5/10 games aren't going to show up with enough A5s type hands or JJ to make this shove profitable, especially with this huge 4bet sizing.

btw is this a 5/10 game with an optional $25 straddle or a mandatory 3 blind structure?

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06-26-2018 , 02:23 PM

iamallin

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Fold.

She is not folding her hand.

Your expected stack size at the end of the hand if you 5 bet shove is 1484 coz you have 40% against qq+, ak

Folding leaves you with 1550 boom..assuming 1800 effective stack

Last edited by iamallin; 06-26-2018 at 02:40 PM.

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06-26-2018 , 04:31 PM

whorasaurus

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Originally Posted by Jarretman

its 5/10 with an optional straddle, good point

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06-26-2018 , 04:45 PM

Jarretman

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^ I'd fold. Easy vacuum jam though.

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06-26-2018 , 06:34 PM

Minatorr

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Easy fold vs cold 4b here

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07-05-2018 , 01:19 AM

fishsoup

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Shrug and fold. You're 200bb deep (not including straddle, as you shouldn't) you can't be getting stacked with QQ

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07-05-2018 , 12:15 PM

dannyboy6292

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I fold. Shes got AK kings or aces. If it were a drunk guy or an asian I may jam. LOL

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07-15-2018 , 05:07 AM

YGOchamp

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Originally Posted by Minatorr

Easy fold vs cold 4b here

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Originally Posted by fishsoup

Shrug and fold. You're 200bb deep (not including straddle, as you shouldn't) you can't be getting stacked with QQ

jfc no wonder this subforum is so dead lmaooooo

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