Villain 1 appears to be a mid 20s asian male, which probably means he's somewhere between 30 and 40. You know, asians being so hard to date.

Anyway, he's been at the table for a couple hours on a 2500 buy in which hasn't really moved. Haven't seen him show down at all but i'm not paying attention to all the hands

Read is he is taking a shot at this level and is playing above his natural limits.

Straddle is also an unknown in a room where i know almost all the regs.

Hero has 1800 in front of him with the BB and is the effective stack.

Villain raises to 60 UTG

folds around to hero who flats with 26

reasons for flatting

A) I am old and I'm drinking coffee and probably not expected to be flatting with this type of hand
B) I believe villain may overplay his hand
C) the straddle is also an unknown and I generally believe that if I haven't seen you at this table before, you probably aren't that good at poker
D) I am stuck 1200 for the session and it's already the middle of the night and tilt is a thing
E) duh, sooted

Straddle calls

(185)
267

hero checks, straddle bets 65, villain raises to 275, hero raises to 550, planning on shoving the turn

villain tanks for a long time and I'm thinking, just fold buddy, but eventually calls

turn 7

abort mission?

Just keep pounding you can rep a full house no way he puts you in two pair

Fold pre and flop has to be way bigger.

raise bigger on flop I like anything from 750-900, but given your reads on asian guy I feel like this guy has got big Overpair and will just turn into a calling station and hope he is good.
The turn is just about the worst card in the deck for ya but I guess you can fire another bullet and hope he doesnt have the club in his hand to continue.
would love too see how this hand plays out

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Jam turn. This is one of the only bluffs you have in this spot.

KT, you make some good points on some threads around here but it's getting increasingly difficult to give your opinions credit when you're flatting $60 w/ 62dd OOP from a $10 BB post with a straddle left to act and then trying to justify it as if it doesn't happen very often. It's like when you catch the junkie shooting heroin and they're like "Oh, I've never done this before, I only smoke weed," as if you just happened to catch them randomly that one time when the reality is that their arms are covered in track marks.

So as far as the hand is concerned, on the turn, for a guy that you said is playing above his level, which likely tightens an already tight UTG opening range to a super tight UTG opening range (99+/AQ+?), you're ahead of what exactly? AQ/AK that isn't suited clubs? So yeah, let's keep betting since we're already burning money on fire (I'm sure part of the reason you're stuck $1200 is because of other terrible preflop decisions, let's not pretend like these only started once you were down), and hope we can bluff V off an overpair because he might be afraid of losing money since he's taking his shot here at a limit he's not comfortable with. Or are we afraid of checking because a guy that's playing scared money above his limit is going to start dropping bombs with AK/AQ and we're going to have to fold our middle pair?

Seriously man, clean your **** up. Just typing this hand out should be a wake-up call.

fold pre..

now shove turn! all overpairs will almost fold here, not unless he has the nutflush

Preflop call is an abomination but that's pretty obvious.

I guess the straddler folded the flop?

As played, if this guy called a raise and reraise, I dont see him folding his overpair when the 7 pairs. He's not putting you on a 7, nor should he be. You just about never have a 7 here unless its 76.

The pot is $1350 and you only have $1190 left. I dont see him folding a big overpair especially if he has a club. He could also have a flush which he is never folding. Just give up and go home for the night.

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Obviously I don’t know your game or V’s. I play 62ss all the time but i’m a loose sticky pay off wizard. Biggest issue I have with the hand is OTF. You gave V 4:1 on a call. I would have thought either $800 or a shove would be best. Your hand is way ahead of V’s range but extremely vulnerable.

I think V has a big pair, probably has a . Flop - might be best to just shove. Can't think of anything other than check/fold on the turn.

1. Not sure what to do since we have another Limon's dilemma hand.
2. I love the post.
3. Is this a dgaf gimmick account?

thanks guys, agree with most of the posts, probably better to raise more on the flop, i think i got a little greedy there and induced a call

only card i really didn't want to see was off suit 7 but an ace may have scared me too, the 7c allows me to use it as a bluff and i think it's may be a mandatory shove but i can get on board with giving up too

in the future feel free to post in these threads regardless of limits you play. I appreciate and value the feedback

Whole hand is spew but thanks for posting. As much as people piss and moan about your play at least it gets a discussion going rather than "1/2 multiway pot is my overpair good??"

Leading flop isn't bad, this checks though a lot. c/r isn't bad either. With 75 straddles starting I'm just shoving flop over the bet and raise.

TL;DR fold pre, jam flop, easy x/f on turn

I don't like the flop min raise on this texture but the stacks are awkward for sure. I'd prefer jamming flop as our default raise given the short-ish awkward stacks. If we cold 3bet the flop to 700 it's not like we have much of a perceived folding range 3way as our raises are gonna be combo draws that can't fold for 1100 more or sets and 2pair (really we shouldn't have many 2pair except 76s some of the time maybe). Maybe 89s has to fold but for 1100 more I don't even know. I guess I prefer the min raise to a ~700 size but really I'd just jam cause it's a lot simpler and we get to realize our equity of our range no matter what and apply max pressure.

I think 22 and 66 likely shove flop from villain's perspective (as a population tendency, even if he "should" be calling those some of the time) in this spot so our blockers aren't that relevant. We're drawing dead or slim vs his entire range except 89s and while ya he's gonna fold some overpairs he's also gonna call his overpairs with a club some of the time. And he's definitely not folding a flush. I'd rather jam 89s. So definitely I'd check turn and look to maybe jam some rivers.

Lol damnit you beat me to it.

Thank god someone interjecting some sense into this thread

Was this a true 5-10-25 - i.e everyone posting the 25 blind? Seems a little odd that the effective stack would be 1800 if so.

But that aside, I think Jarretman nails it for me. Fold pre, probably CR jam the flop, as played C/F the turn.

Of course, an alternate line would be squeeze preflop and play it like aces with that flop. There was a laggy guy in our local 5-10 line up who won a big pot once with the 6-2 and it became his go-to light bluffing hand preflop. It became kind of a local phenomenon for a while, with some of the other loose action players picking it up.

Unfortunately, the originator of the play seems to have gone broke so maybe not a sustainable strategy

I guess my question about stack sizes is answered by OP's other 5-10-25 post - sounds like they'd just agreed to a round of straddles.

it's a 5/10 game where the UTG player straddled, the straddle in the room is 25

i definitely agree with this, we can just jam so many hands for value here with semi-bluff that it's the preferred play by a long shot, but i think with a newb in this game he's just gonna shrug fold AA, which is basically the range i put him on. This isn't a flop I'd expect him to raise too often with, say, AK, the amount of flush draws in his range is completely trivial. I feel we can be completely unbalanced here tbh

Felt like his hand was face up big pair

just not sure what we can do with the 7c, it's the worst card in the deck for BOTH PLAYERS!!!

turn goes check check, river is K

Which favours the aggressor, no?

I agree with your read that villain has a big pocket pair: UTG open, raising this junky flop, and then sigh calling your 3-bet; I don't see him with anything other than AA/KK/QQ here.

Assuming you're right about him playing above his level, I think this is a good time to turn your counterfeited 2-pair into a bluff. The 7 is scary as %*$( for his hand. Your small flop raise into 3 people screams a set or 76s, so I say bet the turn and bet big. He's likely to fold thinking he has 2 outs.

As played, I don't know about betting the river; I think we have to give up. Our turn weakness makes a river bluff less credible, and villain may have KK here.

I would check the turn and strongly consider making a play at this based on the Villian description of scared money and your clean OMC image that contains all the flushes and full houses, even sevens. No one likes to lose big to an “obvious” nutted hand and I see lots of overfolds in this spot from player types such as this trying to avoid the pain of doing so. He is also capped at overpairs (and nutted flushes, rare) if he checks back turn. A 7 or small flush would bet turn for protection live and is unlikely given his UTG open and observed tight preflop selection.

If Villian does check back turn and you shove the river with some decent reverse tells I think it will get a ton of folds from overpairs. Even though live players can get stubborn with them, your perceived range is really clear and has one pair crushed.

I don't see how the turn is bad for us? Surely it effectively nuts up 80% of our range?

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i almost forgot what happened in this hand. imo villain is not going to fold an overpair and I feel like that is almost all his range

from his perspective all my draws hit on the turn even top pair gets there, so it was a tough spot for me to decide what to do and i just checked it because honestly i think he's just going to say f it and call, he's been sitting there for a while not moving a chip and i don't think he would fold an overpair

obviously this is a great card for him when i have exactly 26 but how many 26's should I have from his POV, it might be the nut worst card for him when I don't have 26 lol

tough spot i think...might be best to have just shoved all clubs including this one but i didn't know if he'd call or not, was DEFINITELY shoving a blank but not sure what i'd do if i actually had clubs, may have checked all turns if i actually had clubs so i think maybe the turn check is ok

result: hero shoves river, villain tank folds

2,6 ss. you can win with 66, 22, 345 won't get you much. 6 high flush will lose a lot more money than it will win. So playing it, you need too many things to go you way. any pair counterfeits it, It hard enough to make a hand, playing for the big trap only gets you in the trap.

try this every time you think about playing 26. Get up from the table, go outside and burn a $100 bill. you decide to do it later the same night, go burn two $100 bills. your money will last longer.