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01-24-2018 , 03:51 AM
Shove queens in BB for 125bb's against a 7.5 bb raise from cutoff SB calls that initial raise. Cutoff calls with AKs with about the same starting stack.SB folds and shows an ace. The cards go 985k10 for the runout. Is this a bad shove here? I didn't get the result I was hoping for. I feel like with my equity pre it's an acceptable play; however. My plan was just to take it down pre.

I had 1 or 2 hands prior played against the same opponent where I chased a flush against very aggressive betting from him then jammed oop on the river when it came and he tank folded seeming pretty upset. I think the only reason he called is because of the previous hand. Would you guys recommend not antagonizing an opponent who feels they have to get even with you with such a big re raise. Should I just get up and take a break and wait an orbit for people to reset after cracking an opponent?

A couple other options could be 3 betting 3x pre, folding to a 4 bet. Shoving flop if just a call. Or simply playing queens a little weaker and watching all streets to see if an over card comes and fold to a value bet from my opponent.

I'm wondering if you guys think this a long term profitable play? Looking to be a good consistent winner so far I have been doing well but want to improve.

Last edited by rigdam3nti0n; 01-24-2018 at 04:05 AM.
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01-24-2018 , 03:11 PM
you'll get more responses in the live lowstakes no limit forum
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01-24-2018 , 03:29 PM
Jam seems fine, or 3b/call vs the jam. Definitely do not 3b/fold this or call. If you think he's coming after you for stacking him this is generally a good spot to be in and you should not leave. Also people are going to be pretty annoyed if you walk away from the table any time you stack them.
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01-24-2018 , 09:27 PM
Sorry, didn't recognize this was an online hand .
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01-25-2018 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by isunkurbttlship
Jam seems fine, or 3b/call vs the jam. Definitely do not 3b/fold this or call. If you think he's coming after you for stacking him this is generally a good spot to be in and you should not leave. Also people are going to be pretty annoyed if you walk away from the table any time you stack them.
If the table is very tight I can fold to a 4-bet unfortunately most of the games I play in are daytime weekday or weeknight where it's mostly regs. I can fold there. This guy was not a reg just a quasi reg so I don't care about upsetting him.
Strategically annoying your opponents within the rules should be employed to try to gain an edge. What good is playing against opponents who are perfectly content and playing there best game?
Also I like to take breaks after winning a hand for my own benefit. To reorient myself back to status quo. Sometimes playing a big hand can be very stressful and walking away can help to reset.
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01-26-2018 , 06:18 PM
Good news same quasi reg was there and i hit a set of 99's against his aq on a q934 board jammer turn and he called for 150 bb's!
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01-26-2018 , 10:22 PM
I would make it about 27-30bb and call off.

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01-27-2018 , 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon
I would make it about 27-30bb and call off.

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I like it, I made a really bad play today its raised 3.5xbb with one caller and I jammed 75 bb with queens both folded. I regretted it instantly. next time I'll go 25-30 though I suspect they would fold to anything more than 12.5x
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01-30-2018 , 10:21 AM
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Shove queens in BB for 125bb's against a 7.5 bb raise from cutoff SB calls that initial raise.
Re-raise 23-27x. Choose an amount that denies immediate, and implied odds, but also doesnt stack commit you to the hand.

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Would you guys recommend not antagonizing an opponent who feels they have to get even with you with such a big re raise. Should I just get up and take a break and wait an orbit for people to reset after cracking an opponent?
Dont take a break. Understand your opponents thinking and adjust your gameplan constantly.

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A couple other options could be 3 betting 3x pre, folding to a 4 bet.
3bet with the intention of stacking off. Especially against the opponent who had to bet/bet/bet/fold in a big pot and looks visibly annoyed with you.

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Looking to be a good consistent winner so far I have been doing well but want to improve.
Ask yourself, "Why am I choosing this play". Honestly answer to the best of your abilities at the time. Even if your wrong with your thinking, this process will lead you to improving your poker thought foundation.
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