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Old 11-06-2017, 06:38 AM   #3676
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Re: 2k- a poker story (wtmfl;dr obv)

unless you are playing the 10/20 in LA, i wouldnt worry too much about carrying too much cash. if you still feel uneasy, leave the money in your bank, and tell the bank to increase your daily ATM withdrawls to whatever $$$ you want. They have always complied with my wishes, provided i give them enough heads up.

cashiers checks wont work at the casino from what i know, and nothing short of cash will.
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Old 11-09-2017, 04:18 PM   #3677
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Anyone have advice on the best way to move money to a casino? Specifically LA?

I don’t want to carry a ton of cash. Credit lines require in person fingerprinting and take time to process. I’m assuming cashier check is probably the safest way?
Call the casino(s) you're planning to play at and ask what their suggestion is. Wiring money to the cage is generally the standard practice if you don't want to bring cash and don't have chips from other casinos that you know people will accept off the table
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:45 AM   #3678
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unless you are playing the 10/20 in LA, i wouldnt worry too much about carrying too much cash. if you still feel uneasy, leave the money in your bank, and tell the bank to increase your daily ATM withdrawls to whatever $$$ you want. They have always complied with my wishes, provided i give them enough heads up.

cashiers checks wont work at the casino from what i know, and nothing short of cash will.


I️ called and they told me to use a cashiers check Actually
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Old 11-18-2017, 02:31 PM   #3679
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Re: 2k- a poker story (wtmfl;dr obv)

Lonzo Ball on why he just walked away when some Lakers and Suns were getting into a "fracas":

"It's the NBA. People ain't really going to fight. I ain't trying to get no tech."

I love when someone points out something obvious that has been overlooked forever.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/l...o-get-no-tech/

edit: I feel Lonzo's disgust with fakeness. I kinda also feel the take that he should have maybe at least watched lol.
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:48 PM   #3680
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I don't think its a good look to let your teammates see you turning your back on them. Maybe hold one of your boys back from getting a tech himself? You don't have to throw a punch but you can't just walk away like that
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Old 11-19-2017, 08:59 PM   #3681
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Yeah I agree I think he comes out looking terribly. He’s a rookie and he will learn I’m sure

I think his actions are sort of analogous to what we see out of hoodie iPad regs. In a vacuum, it’s +EV to not straddle or give action with weak holdings or whatever.... but in the long run it pays off and is healthy for the game. Ball’s actions make sense because he knew there wouldn’t be an actual brawl but it will certainly cause internal friction with teammates and fans and that’s much worse than getting a technical
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Old 11-20-2017, 01:32 AM   #3682
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I think the difference is that basketball is a sport. In sports, it’s generally best/highly acceptable to take the most +ev (in a vacuum) route. Poker otoh is a social game that depends on communal efforts, and the most +EV decision is very often a combination of short-term (vacuum) and long-term considerations.

That preachy rant aside, Lonzo made a statement that I love, “Let’s be real.” The optimist in me feels like it was potentially a very strong leadership move- albeit an unconventional one...

Lastly, we don’t know the context of the fracas. Also, Tyler Ulis (the guy lonzo’s teammate was going after) is like 5’4”/incredibly tiny for the nba.
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Old 11-20-2017, 02:19 AM   #3683
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When I was in college our crew used to walk to bars after pre-gaming. Everyone was chill except one dude would mouth off to everyone always. One night two businessmen were talking outside our main spot. Our boy decided to make fun of one of them for wearing glasses (lol). He really started antagonizing this guy and the guy repeatedly asked him to keep walking- and he told our boy he wouldn’t like the consequences of not doing so. Our boy had to be tough and lunge at the guy...

The 4-eyed businessman in his 3-piece suit one-timed our boy like U wouldn’t believe. Within a millisecond the drunk pointless antagonizing became silence and our boy was out cold on the sidewalk. I was the lover of the group- and the rest were fighters. Like real fighters who would back down to no one, etc.

None of us did ****. We just picked up our boy, put him in a cab with his roommate, and we walked into the bar. Anything else would have been Lonzo defending his teammate against Tyler ulis imo.

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Old 11-20-2017, 07:48 AM   #3684
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Wanted to see what this was all about so found it here. On one hand you stand up for your boys but his approach also sends a good message saying, "I am here to play ball and not get involved with foolishness."

https://twitter.com/World_Wide_Wob/s...740800/video/1
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Old 11-20-2017, 01:23 PM   #3685
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https://youtu.be/MXIuYsB5eJg

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Old 11-20-2017, 06:36 PM   #3686
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Wanted to see what this was all about so found it here. On one hand you stand up for your boys but his approach also sends a good message saying, "I am here to play ball and not get involved with foolishness."

https://twitter.com/World_Wide_Wob/s...740800/video/1
In real situations. Not fake ones. Imo.
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Old 11-20-2017, 06:41 PM   #3687
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Haha, Kanter sticking up on the court was decent. His postgame interview was embarrassing.

If I wanted to retaliate on the court I would just go about my business and then commit a hard offensive foul later or something like that. I wouldn't start barking "let me at him" when I know 100% that isn't going to be allowed.
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Old 11-20-2017, 06:41 PM   #3688
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When I was in college our crew used to walk to bars after pre-gaming. Everyone was chill except one dude would mouth off to everyone always. One night two businessmen were talking outside our main spot. Our boy decided to make fun of one of them for wearing glasses (lol). He really started antagonizing this guy and the guy repeatedly asked him to keep walking- and he told our boy he wouldn’t like the consequences of not doing so. Our boy had to be tough and lunge at the guy...

The 4-eyed businessman in his 3-piece suit one-timed our boy like U wouldn’t believe. Within a millisecond the drunk pointless antagonizing became silence and our boy was out cold on the sidewalk. I was the lover of the group- and the rest were fighters. Like real fighters who would back down to no one, etc.

None of us did ****. We just picked up our boy, put him in a cab with his roommate, and we walked into the bar. Anything else would have been Lonzo defending his teammate against Tyler ulis imo.

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Can you please write a book so I can just mail you my credit card?

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Old 11-20-2017, 06:48 PM   #3689
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scqitXx-bkE

All the fake tough guys on the Thunder got exposed here.
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Old 11-20-2017, 07:20 PM   #3690
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Can you please write a book so I can just mail you my credit card?

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lol hopefully soon

One more fighting anecdote: A few years ago at HG my boy who is nice, friendly and non-confrontational-- but also did time and stayed independent inside--> he can really handle himself-- finally challenged some table bully who was being a dick to everyone and calling my boy gay or whatever...

But he didn't do it in a "hold me back" Enes Kanter barking at Lebron way. He calmly and quietly asked the guy if he would like to meet him at a nearby park. The guy started barking all tough and my boy even calmer and more quietly said, "Look, let's not wake the dead here. I want you to be quiet as a church mouse right now. Just get up and slowly walk out that door. I'll walk out the other door- and we will meet at the park across the street to settle this..."

The table bully surpassingly followed his instructions (most just fold at this point and say "yeah I was bluffing, next hand")... Waiting for him at the park was my boy, still quiet, less calm though, and ****ing decked out in his old high school wrestling uniform somehow- head gear and all!

The rest you have to just use your imagination for because I wasn't there and I instinctually stopped listening to the story at this point...

The point is that "gangsters move in silence". Real tough guys don't act tough. They NEVER engage in a public setting where there will be consequences and things will be broken up quickly.

FTR- I'm way anti-violence. I'm equally anti-fake though.

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Old 11-20-2017, 07:23 PM   #3691
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I agree with anyone who wants to create a positive atmosphere at the poker table. There's way too much ego and bad energy in live poker these days, and it only seems to be getting worse. I wrote an article for the Aug 2016 issue of 2p2 magazine, but since those get removed after while I figured this thread would be a great place to republish it.



Four Ways to Improve your Table Presence (and the game you're sitting in)



As a live poker player, you know the value of focus, patience, and observation. You realize that making logical decisions based on available information is the recipe for success. But you may be overlooking one factor that has an enormous impact on game quality, and can even affect how well your opponents play against you: your table presence.

Table presence is simply one's demeanor or energy at the poker table. A friendly player who wins and loses graciously has a positive table presence. Their light mood attracts recreational players, who in turn, make the game more profitable. A rude or intimidating player has a negative table presence. Their serious mood repels recreational players, turning what could be a fun game into a battlefield.

Here are four easy ways to improve your table presence. Follow them regularly, and you'll find yourself sitting in softer, more enjoyable poker games.



1 – Lose the Uniform



I once overheard two notoriously fishy players chatting on the rail. “Where should we try to sit?” one man asked the other.

“Any game without hoodies or headphones,” his friend said.

That statement taught me a valuable lesson: the way we dress can affect who sits down at our table.

Imagine for one moment that you are a recreational player looking to gamble. It's Saturday night. The wife is glued to the slot machines. You've got a cold beer in one hand and a rack of reds in the other. Then you hear those magic words over the music: “Open seating for two-five no limit.”

Where would you choose to sit, the table full of plain clothes civilians having fun, or the table with five young hotshots wearing hoodies, headphones, and sunglasses?

The standard issue poker uniform—which may also include track pants and a backpack—basically tells the entire room that you are dead serious about the game, that 2-5NL is your grind zone and you're just putting in another shift.

Is that really the vibe you want to project? Sure, you may deter a good player from sitting down, but you're more likely to scare off loose customers who just want to enjoy themselves.

Remember, most recreational players want to sit with other recreational players, not seasoned pros. So instead of dressing to intimidate or play the role of a grinder, try dressing to blend in with the rest of the casino crowd. Your games are guaranteed to soften up from this simple adjustment.



2 – Don't Stroke your Ego



If you want to toughen up a table really quickly, start announcing your poker knowledge with terms like pot odds, balancing hand ranges, or expected value. Hell, take it one step further by telling everyone your hourly win rate. After all, you are a professional.

Ego stroking is the bane of live poker.

Just imagine what a novice player might think when he hears this conspicuous jargon. 'Wow, that guy plays this game for a living? He must be really good. I wonder who else in here plays for a living.' All of a sudden the novice is folding his Q-3 suited to your re-raise, or worse yet, taking his chips to the blackjack pit.

To make matters worse, the other regulars may ramp up their aggression, eager to prove themselves in what is now an ego battleground. Within just a few minutes, a spicy 1-2 no limit game is playing more like 5-10, and it's all because someone couldn't resist the urge to show off.

Comments and actions intended to inflate your self-image are nearly always going to be bad for the game. The momentary pleasure you get from bragging is not worth having your opponents play better poker.



3 – Never Berate Bad Play



You know this feeling all too well—the agony of losing a huge pot with 95% equity. As the mountain of chips gets pushed to the underdog, negative thoughts race through your head, your blood begins to boil, and you may wonder why your opponent called your shove with that trashy hand. Then it happens, an abrupt loss of self-control: “How the f**k did you call me there, buddy? Like seriously, what were you thinking? You're the worst player at the table.”

This behavior is not only childish and disrespectful, it's also terrible for the game. Many times after a verbal lashing, a chatty table will fall silent, or the action will dry up considerably.

What can you do to prevent a blowup?

The first step is to breathe deeply and observe the toxic emotion swelling up inside you. The second step is to use conscious, logical thought to defuse the emotion. 'I want my opponents to make huge mistakes. If I saw his cards before the river fell I would have been thrilled to get called. Scolding a player for theoretically donating money is foolish.'

This reassuring self-talk works wonders for calming your mind and preventing the kind of outbursts that ruin good games.



4 – Be Genuinely Friendly with Everyone



There is a common misconception that in order to be a winning poker player, you also need to be completely detached from humanity, an ice cold automaton. As a result, poker rooms around the world are filled with players who do nothing but scowl and stare people down. Their table presence alone can create enough tension to spoil the action.

The truth is that you can be friendly and a winning player at the same time. As a matter of fact, being genuinely friendly will make you an even bigger winner at poker, and at life.

When you greet people with a smile while making eye contact, when you spend a moment chatting or laughing with a table mate, when you treat everyone as your equal, something magical happens: you reveal the underlying connection between all human beings.

Suddenly, other people start interacting in a friendly way. The mood lightens. The game loosens up. This attracts the kind of players who are looking to have some fun. Within a short period of time, your game has bumped up a few notches on the profitability scale, and it's all because of your positive energy.

It's important to remember that what we put out into the world—whether it be love or hate, joy or misery—is always reflected back to us.



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If you want to play in better poker games, be mindful of your mood, your demeanor, the energy you emit. Your table presence has a direct influence on game quality, and game quality has a direct influence on your bankroll. So smile once in a while, be a humble winner and a gracious loser, have a little fun with your table mates. More fish will swim in your pond when you don't announce that you're a shark.
Somehow I slept this. Excellent contribution imo. GJ.
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Old 11-21-2017, 02:38 PM   #3692
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:54 PM   #3693
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Two worst things in sports:

1. Pretending like your going to fight someone because you KNOW there's not going to be an actual fight.
2. Apologies that are obv written by PR guys, when the athlete is clearly not sorry for what they did/said.
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Old 11-22-2017, 08:10 PM   #3694
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When I was in college our crew used to walk to bars after pre-gaming.
What do you mean by this? Pre-gaming as in warm up exercises doing cold approaches on the street to pump up your state, before going to the bar and talking to everyone?
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:55 PM   #3695
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What do you mean by this? Pre-gaming as in warm up exercises doing cold approaches on the street to pump up your state, before going to the bar and talking to everyone?


When I was in college pre gaming was the drinking you did before you went drinking.




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